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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I have to agree that is looking a lot like a photoshop job.

I suggest you contact these good folk at the NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/pageoneplus/corrections.html

They were good enough to correct their earlier errors. Take a look. There's a lot of them. See if you can conjure up other facets of left wing conspiracy for all of them. You know....for fun!
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can bury your head in the sand as deeply as you may like, but to not see that there is a major level of partisanship in the way MOST media are portraying the current conflict in between Hezbollah and Israel, and that this partisanship often serves to inflame crazy Islamic droids...is beyond naive.

if the New York Times plasters fake photos on its cover, photos designed to highlight Arab suffering and Israeli aggression, can you imagine what passes for journalism in places like Egypt, Iran, and Saud Arabia?
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That video "Obsession" that Teufelswacht posted here gives us a bit of a clue...

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=62489

But I don't really care what the Iranian Broadcasting Corp or FM 99.9 Home of all-jihad, all the time classics has to say.

But I certainly expect more diligence to the facts and objectivity from our "enlightened" western press. As already pointed out, regardless of whether or not you believe it's a conspiracy this is clearly very shoddy journalism.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's an article on the scandal from LA Weekly (www.littlegreenfootballs.com) is LA-based -

http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/reuters-image-problem/14170/

Reuters' Image Problem

L.A. blog unmasks Hezbollah propaganda
By BRENDAN BERNHARD
Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 10:05 am
It�s been a good week for Los Angeles� most controversial political Web site, Little Green Footballs, widely reviled by some because it takes global Islamist terrorism more seriously than, say, a Dick Cheney hunting accident.

On August 5, Little Green Footballs (LGF) provided convincing visual evidence that a Reuters photograph of the aftermath of an Israeli bombing of Beirut was a poorly Photoshopped fake. The black clouds of smoke and duplicated buildings shown in the photograph were so obviously �cloned,� in Photoshop-speak, that it seemed surprising they could escape notice on one of the world�s smost prestigious news desk. But escape it they did, and the image went �round the world, one more victory in Hezbollah�s propaganda war against Israel and the U.S.

But then, it has long been the contention of LGF�s webmaster, 53-year-old Charles Johnson, who is the co-founder of Pajamas Media, that an awful lot of dodgy news items seem to slip past the news desks of Reuters, the Associated Press, and other major media organizations and newspapers. Two years ago, Johnson was the blogger responsible for exposing CBS anchorman Dan Rather�s use of forged memos about George W. Bush�s military service in an attempt to influence the 2004 presidential election. The memos were such obvious forgeries that Johnson was able to reveal them as such in a matter of minutes, posting the results online. But Dan Rather, the heir to Walter Cronkite and figurehead for CBS News, bought into them wholesale.

The photograph that first came to Johnson�s attention on LGF was taken by Adnan Hajj, a Lebanese stringer. Reuters, which has employed Hajj since 1993, has officially admitted that the photograph was indeed �doctored.� (Hajj was promptly fired.) In the meantime, bloggers looking through the stringer�s extensive Reuters portfolio soon came up with other photographs that appear to have been either digitally manipulated or �staged.� As a result, Reuters has conceded that a second Hajj photo, claiming to show an F-16 jet firing three missiles, was in reality the image of an Israeli jet dropping a single anti-SAM flare that Hajj cloned twice, turning it into three �missiles.�

Two more Reuters photos by Hajj, one dated July 24 and the other August 5, display an area of Beirut bombed by Israeli aircraft. The caption accompanying each photo states that the destruction had taken place the day before. A cursory examination of the two pictures makes it clear, however, that the site was bombed once, on July 24, and then photographed again 11 days later as if the ruination had just occurred. Either that, or Hajj simply took both photos on July 24, offering one to Reuters, and then offered the second almost two weeks later with a caption suggesting that it had just been taken.

Contacted by phone in Los Angeles, Johnson says he would like to see Reuters become more accountable in cases like this, but doubts that it will happen. �They�ve fired the guy [Hajj], but it goes beyond him, and people are starting to go over all those photos from Lebanon with a fine-tooth comb. It�s not always a question of fakery but also of propaganda, manipulation, whatever you want to call it.

�The issue is, if they�re using local stringers for reporting from these areas, they have to take more care that they�re reputable and not connected to groups like Hezbollah. I�m not saying they are connected, but Hezbollah has a media-relations department, they know very well what the power of the media is, and I�m not confident that news agencies like Reuters are ensuring it doesn�t happen. I think this scandal proves it doesn�t happen adequately... I really believe that Hezbollah is managing a lot of the stuff that�s coming out of Lebanon.�

The real thrust of Johnson�s critique, in other words, is to raise the delicate question of who exactly we are entrusting our �news gathering� to. Johnson and other bloggers have been criticized for claiming that the deaths of 28 civilians following an Israeli bombing of a house in the Lebanese village of Qana were deliberately staged by Hezbollah. But photos by the ubiquitous Hajj played a prominent role in the coverage, as Reuters has conceded. Bloggers claim many of them look, if not staged, then extremely posed. Particularly notorious was the number of photographs featuring a mysterious, green-helmeted Lebanese aid worker who, among other duties, seemed willing to hold up dead babies for hours on end for anyone with a working camera.

Johnson disputes the notion that he has tried to pretend no one died in Qana or that the death of children isn�t unequivocally horrifying. �None of the points I was making were intended to minimize the deaths in Qana, which did happen,� he says. �But because images like that have such a powerful hold over human nature � they invoke the strongest emotions we have, to see children dead � if someone is manipulating those effects for propaganda purposes, it�s vital they be exposed, because it�s loathsome. But yes, no one wants the children to be dead, and I don�t minimize that at all. But to dance on their corpses in this ghoulish propaganda display is almost worse.�

Dancing on corpses? Ghoulish propaganda display? A leaked interoffice memo from the Associated Press, or AP, congratulating its Qana photographers on �a stunning series of images . . . that beat the competition and scored huge play overnight,� suggests that such phrases, as well as some of Johnson�s other charges, may not be entirely hyperbolic.

�Nasser�s most haunting image,� reads one section of the memo, referring to a picture by AP photographer Nasser Nasser, �showed a man emerging from the rubble carrying the lifeless and dust-covered body of a child. Calm, morning light shone down on man and child, highlighting them against an almost monochrome background of pure rubble.� Monochrome background. Calm, morning light. Pure rubble (as opposed to that hideous rubbly kind of rubble). How nice. How poetic. How aesthetic. AP sounds less like a news organization than an ad agency.

In exposing Hajj�s manipulations, Johnson has raised the lid on a potential Pandora�s box. Namely, how our leading news agencies and newspapers increasingly rely on stringers from hostile nations to tell us how we, or our allies, behave in wartime. Since you�d be hard-pressed to find Muslims in the U.S., let alone Europe, who aren�t strongly anti-Israel and opposed to any American presence in the Middle East whatsoever, why on earth would you expect to find neutral Arab reporters in Baghdad or Beirut? This is the kind of question newspaper editors should be asking themselves (and their stringers). If the implications of this are followed through, or if more photographers like Adnan �Photoshop� Hajj are discovered, the ramifications are likely to be significant. In helping bring Hajj�s smoke-and-mirrors game to light, Johnson has performed a great service.



But don�t expect him to get much thanks for it in his hometown. Though he has a few vocal supporters here, such as L.A.-based journalist Cathy Seipp, who calls Johnson a �righteous gentile� and points out for slow learners that being an anti-anti-Semite does not equate to racism, Johnson�s chances of being invited to a party at Arianna Huffington�s mansion are about as good as Osama bin Laden�s. (Okay, worse.)

Last February, in an article about Pajamas Media, Los Angeles magazine�s media critic, R.J. Smith, characterized Johnson�s site as �constitutionally protected hate speech.� He described LGF, which averages well over 100,000 unique hits a day, as an online hangout for �haters� who think �all Muslims are terrorists until proven innocent.� The fact that LGF provides an incredibly useful guide to global Islamist encroachment appears not to have entered his head at all.

As an example of bien pensant groupthink, Smith�s article could hardly be bettered. Smith was supposed to be a professional media �critic� writing about a hapless blogger. In reality, he was just a member of the media, as loyal to clan as a potbellied Irish cop, writing about a real media critic. Johnson caught Dan Rather trying to swing a presidential election, and now he�s blown a giant hole in the credibility of the world�s largest news service. As a result of his work, Reuters has been forced to delete all 920 Hajj photographs from its database, tighten its filing drills and institute a new policy whereby all Middle East photographs will be checked by the editor-in-charge on the Global Pictures Desk before release. Johnson achieved all this in, oh, about 48 hours. Which does lead one to ask: What have you done lately, R.J.?

In the meantime, Johnson is modest about the short-term outcome of his efforts. �In the sense that living organisms always adapt and evolve to meet challenges,� he notes wryly, �one immediate effect of the scandal is that people will be more careful when they fake photographs.�
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in case anyone is still interested in the manipulation of western media by terrorists and their sympathizers....(and I know, a few of you think it's just about the money fauxtographers can pocket)...


check out the following over at Hotair, especially Anderson Cooper's description of the staged ambulance runs.

Israelis and its supporters have known for decades how the media (and especially the Arab/Muslim masses) has been manipulated by Arab terrorists, hoping to score points in the public opinion battles.

Only now, the game is up, thanks to the web. Maybe seeing the truth of the fakery propogated by the anti-Israel forces, will help awaken some of you to the mountains of lies spread about Israel....but I'm not counting on it. So many of you are in deep...like Canadian lefty deep. Anyhow, good luck with it...

Charles Johnson is my hero.

http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/08/09/video-charles-johnson-howard-kurtz-anderson-cooper-on-reutersgate/
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Butterfly



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
here's another likely example of fauxtography

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2006/07/25/world/200607725_LEBA_SLIDESHOW_4.html


check out the face of the black guy in the corner....certainly seems photoshopped.

Why would this matter.

Trying to subtly expand the idea of victimhood to include a billion or so dark-skinned Africans might seem to be the rationale....


You'd think they'd have made a better job of it wouldn't you? I mean, even a techno-foo like me would have made a better job of it than whoever did this? They aren't very good at these world-opinion-changing conspracies are they?
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, they seem to have achieved some of their purposes (they being the terrorist-sympathizing fauxtographers)...

the vast swath of the Arab/Muslim world, fed 24 hours of slanted/staged/fake/fraudelent journalism is frothing at the mouth with hatred of Israel.

Of course, we shouldn't be surprised, look at the insanity those Danish cartoons unleashed....Cartoons with a body count, another first in history brought to us by Islam.


the combination of dark ages, religiously fanatic thinking and modern technology creates some major cognitive dissonance...
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
actually, they seem to have achieved some of their purposes (they being the terrorist-sympathizing fauxtographers)...

the vast swath of the Arab/Muslim world, fed 24 hours of slanted/staged/fake/fraudelent journalism is frothing at the mouth with hatred of Israel.

Of course, we shouldn't be surprised, look at the insanity those Danish cartoons unleashed....Cartoons with a body count, another first in history brought to us by Islam.


the combination of dark ages, religiously fanatic thinking and modern technology creates some major cognitive dissonance...



It's safe to say that the Arab world hates Israel, Zionism and Jews in general, and that this is reflected and perpetuated by some
Arabic media. A quick look at http://www.memritv.org/ is enough to convince most people of that.

But, to draw this minor kerfuffle over one or two piddling photoshop jobs being found in the western (if you insist) mainstream media, as being influential on Arab media and Arab public opinion is just ridiculous.

Sandub, I called you a moron because you take your opinions direct from the mouths of your 'heroes', whole and uncritically.

Charles Johnson and the blogger scrutiny of media is to be commended, an informed, involved and critical citizenry is a good thing for society. It fulfills the promise of journalism.

But, and this is the important bit, to claim that you know why these cases took place - when you can't possibly, to ignore more likely scenarios - in defiance of common sense, and cry conspiracy makes you look like a hysterical moonbat... the rightwing IGTG.


PS.

Propaganda isn't exactly new. It's not surprising that Hizbollah attempt to lie about casualties, and I guess the cracks in the media conspiracy are showing, because the main stream media told you about it... Wow...it must be true!!
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, it's not one or two "piddling photoshop jobs" as you suggest. There are now literally dozens of examples of staged photos,

and as I posted (which you probably missed), a link to Anderson Cooper DESCRIBING the fake photos of ambulances that had been parked, and were then told to saddle up, lights and sirens blaring....all for the cameras.

This is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR journalistic scandal.

Never in history has a global media giant, like Reuters, New York Times....etc, been caught red-handed publishing fake, staged and doctored potographs,....


all of which try to sway public opinion AGAINST Israel.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

relying on Islamic employees in sensitive areas, be it Heathrow Airport or war photography seems increasingly problematic....to say the least.
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
Dude, it's not one or two "piddling photoshop jobs" as you suggest. There are now literally dozens of examples of staged photos,

and as I posted (which you probably missed), a link to Anderson Cooper DESCRIBING the fake photos of ambulances that had been parked, and were then told to saddle up, lights and sirens blaring....all for the cameras.

This is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR journalistic scandal.

Never in history has a global media giant, like Reuters, New York Times....etc, been caught red-handed publishing fake, staged and doctored potographs,....


all of which try to sway public opinion AGAINST Israel.


Bullsh*t. You've got some photos that altered or otherwise will have minimal involvement in shaping peoples opinions against Israel.

You've got perfectly good reasons for why this may have happened.

You're an swallowing and perpetuating a conspiracy theory, because in your head this version of events fits with what you believe. You have no objective, critical or logical faculty.

Quote:
and as I posted (which you probably missed), a link to Anderson Cooper DESCRIBING the fake photos of ambulances that had been parked, and were then told to saddle up, lights and sirens blaring....all for the cameras.


Proof of which is the fact that you can't even objectively view your own sources. The CNN correspondent describes an obvious attempt at propagandising by Hizbollah. Not surpising behaviour by a group at war. EVERY group at war will try their hand at propaganda.

The fact that the mainstream media (the people running the conspiracy according to you) TOLD YOU about this should hint to you that they were pointing out the obvious manipulation by Hizbollah. The CNN guy DID NOT say ONCE, that anyone took photos of the ambulances, neither did he say they were run.

So you, hopefully, can see the difference between a report on attempted propagand efforts and the reporting of propaganda as news....

Can you...or is this more proof that the Left wing Illuminati, thought police are running the newpapers of the world? Idiot.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No my friend it is you who are the idiot. The mainstream media was informed about this by bloggers, leading the charge for truth was Charles Johnson at littlegreenfootballs.com They did not inform me, I knew about the photos probably prior to even the news editors at Reuters.

The bloggers have now taken the lead in separating fact from fiction. Hopefully, the MSM will take the cue, for if they don't, they will become increasingly irrelevant.

The MSM is at least 5 years behind the blogosphere in their reporting on this manipulation by Arab/Muslim stringers in the Middle East.

In case you are still unconvinced may I present to you, Pallywood..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys&search=pallywood/


watch the whole 18 minutes and answer the following question. Have you seen the MSM either broadcast or or even report on the damning evidence contained in this film?
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dig yourself deeper.

Edited*

Sandub you're wrong about so much, but not your last post. I take it back. Apoologies.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what?

now I'm a dickhead? lol.

I'm guessing you didn't watch the Pallywood video. Sticking with the NYTs I guess.

When a child loses an argument, he resorts to name-calling.

You call me a dickhead, I'll call you a child.
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