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davester13
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: Teachers networking with adult students, good or bad? |
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What's your opinion of a teacher "networking" with his or her ADULT students? I've heard of teachers who have done both social networking (making friendships, dating) and business networking (finding future jobs). Is this a good or bad idea? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I've actually been successful at introducing my students to each other (business wise). |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Friendships = good
Business relationships = be careful about what exactly
Dating = bad.....if you value your sanity do not go there! |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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IMHO "networking" is one way of m,aking your life easier.
Information seldom goes public in Korea, you need to know people who can give you that information.
I am getting a free MBA program just because of that. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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canuckistan is right
To expand a bit on the business part: Korea operates on personal relationships. The more people you know, the more opportunities you will have. Exploit (in the good sense) those relationships and opportunities. |
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Otus
Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Business-wise, this is the toughest country I've been in for networking. Family relationships can and often do rule over all else. Alternatively, having attended the same kindergarten 30 years ago and having kept in touch off and on over the years will get a foot in the door. Aside from that, finishing military service in a sane condition with a clean record can be utilized more greatly than a university degree, but the two need to be coupled together.
In my opinion:
A foreigner needs to demonstrate sheer genius at performance level, be shrewd enough to avoid exploitation without coming across as aggressive in the ridiculously imitational way many do, and must also remain completely in the shadows without mouthing off: almost impossible for ESL teachers. Then you could still be mistrusted and dumped for not conforming to any known stereotype.
Anyway, just trying to reconcile a lot of experienced contradictions and express an opinion. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Otus wrote: |
Anyway, just trying to reconcile a lot of experienced contradictions and express an opinion. |
It seems you have some "on hand" experience.
Care to share more? |
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Otus
Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Some of my best Korean friends are those I've met through adult classes. Why not? You help them sometimes, they help you sometimes...that's what friendship is about!!
As for dating...wait until the class is over, or the one you're interested in stops taking your class! |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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As long as you remember one rule of thumb there shouldn't be a problem. The rule is, 'In Korea, once you are an English teacher in someone's eyes, you're ALWAYS an English teacher.' I can't tell you the good laughs I've had at people that come over to 'teach while they network for a corporate job'. They may actaully get introduced to someone at a large company, but it is to...yup, you guessed it...teach English.
If you want to work corporate in Korea, get hired somewhere else, get your corporate indoctrination over with, and come on over if you can. You'll have a better standard of life anyway.
On a personal level, if you want to hang out with your adult students and form friendships, particularly if you met them through an institute class, why not? Professionally, though, unless your impetuts is to stay in teaching, but to teach somewhere else, I'd say it's a bust. |
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EdInstead
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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canuckistan wrote: |
Friendships = good
Business relationships = be careful about what exactly
Dating = bad.....if you value your sanity do not go there! |
How did you meet your husband? |
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EdInstead
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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ajuma wrote: |
Some of my best Korean friends are those I've met through adult classes. Why not? You help them sometimes, they help you sometimes...that's what friendship is about!!
As for dating...wait until the class is over, or the one you're interested in stops taking your class! |
A friend found his wife that way.
I believe that YBM does stand for, "You'll Be Married." |
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mateomiguel
Joined: 16 May 2005
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:05 am Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
As long as you remember one rule of thumb there shouldn't be a problem. The rule is, 'In Korea, once you are an English teacher in someone's eyes, you're ALWAYS an English teacher.' I can't tell you the good laughs I've had at people that come over to 'teach while they network for a corporate job'. They may actaully get introduced to someone at a large company, but it is to...yup, you guessed it...teach English. |
I don't want to shoot down your perfectly acceptable theory but I am starting a real job in September, in Korea, working for a corporation as a journalist in the field of my Master's Degree after working as an English teacher in Korea for a while.
If you actually have education and demonstable ability to do a job, and your unique experience as a foreigner in a foreign land is valuable to your company, they'll bend over backwards to get you that E-7 and put you on board.
Oh and as to networking with your students... DO IT. 100% support student networking. And korean teacher networking, and secretary networking, and former employer networking. Its all valuable and what downside could you possibly have? Your address book is too full? |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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EdInstead wrote: |
canuckistan wrote: |
Friendships = good
Business relationships = be careful about what exactly
Dating = bad.....if you value your sanity do not go there! |
How did you meet your husband? |
I met him at an embassy party in Seoul--he's American--already spoke English, no classes needed
Mixing work and dating relationships is dicey. Your female students will talk--dating the English teacher is something to talk about hey. Ajuma is right--if you really must, wait until the student isn't in your class or even better--at your school any longer.
On a related note--and this one's more extreme:
I once worked with a guy who was really good looking--and a cad. Many of the Korean women in his classes were interested and he portrayed himself as single. So he figured he'd take advantage and try to perfect the art of juggling them all through the week. Did I forget to mention he was already married to a Korean woman? Never mind that.
After a couple of months it all began to unravel for him as women in his classes began comparing notes about their various "dates" with him (never underestimate the chatter about this).
Soon after, he turned up at work bleeding and looking like a bag of cats had attempted to claw him to death. His face, neck, and chest were a bloody mess. We figured the the wife had gotten wind (?)--maybe through text messages on his phone from his various "dates" at school. Or maybe it was one of his "dates" from school. In any case his name was mud.
He left the school next day, never to return. |
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