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Should Western Countries Consider Banning Islam? |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: Should the West Ban Islam? |
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Cults and even "mainstream" groups such as Scientologists and Seventh-Day Adventists have been banned in several countries.
None of these "cults?" or groups have murdered or planned to murder thousands of their fellow citizens as has Islam.
Islam, solely among the minority religions of the west, is responsible for the viscious deaths of literally thousands of innocent men women and children.
Saudi Arabia, the birthplace and nerve center of global Islam sees fit to ban such harmless groups such as Christianity and Buddhism from its shores.
Why shouldn't the west, after experiencing tragedy after tragedy of Islamic savagery continue to provide such a bloodthirsty cult with a home?
btw, I believe that simply beginning such a debate will save lives. If moderate Muslims think that their homes and businesses will actually be stripped of them as long as they let their sons quietly plan mass murder.....things will get better very quickly.
trust me.
so I say...kick them out.
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: |
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of all the unrealistic dreams to have... |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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well, i think the sooner the discussion begins, the sooner things will get better.
if such a debate really got going in mainstream western media, the anti-jihad would begin in earnest...among muslims.
as it is....we are sitting back as an idealogy TOTALLY opposed to our civilization spreads within the west...it has launched its first major salvos of mass murder....and we sit back...calming ourselves with ridiculously pc ideas of "tolerance" and "multi-culturalism"
all the while not one single leftist loony idiotarian group can muster even 5 people to protest a Saudi Embassy for their lack of religious/gender freedom.
Meanwhile, tens of thousands of these same idoitarians gather regularly to denounce Israel and the United States.
I say the best defense is a strong offense.
BAN ISLAM NOW!!!!!
BAN ISLAM NOW!!!!
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: |
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dble post |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Double posting by a half-wit doesn't add up to one whole decent post. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I can't even believe you are serious...........
You make even a red neck look like a Rhodes Scholar.
I wish we could ban "stupidity" but alas it is far too common to eradicate with a ban.
DD |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Think about it..
Aum Shinrikyo, the Japanese cult that launched the Sarin gas attack in the Tokyo subways,
was banned.
Do you beknighted lords of political correctness oppose this ban?
And if you do, why don't you let the Japanese government know that you are concerned about the religious freedom of the Aum Shinrikyo people. After all, all there religion did was kill a dozen or so people on the subway.
Islam has killed many times more, on trains planes subways buses.....
Why is banning one the wise thing to do but not the other?? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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btw, I believe that simply beginning such a debate will save lives. If moderate Muslims think that their homes and businesses will actually be stripped of them as long as they let their sons quietly plan mass murder.....things will get better very quickly.
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That's like saying if moderate Southern whites think that the government will soon make it legal for black men to rape white women, they'll be less inclined to join the KKK. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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your analogy is lost on me.
My point is that so far, the majority of Islamic people resident in the west are sitting on the sidelines in this battle.
If they were to truly feel that they will no longer be welcome as long as members of their community plan the mass slaughter of infidels, we'd all be safer.
What do you suppose a Moslem country would do if Christian immigrant communities in their lands blew up their subways, planes,and busses?
Turning the other cheek is a virtue up to only a certain point, at which it becomes suicidal. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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your analogy is lost on me. |
The point is that threatening someone with state-sanctioned physical attack(and that is what we are talking about when we talk about forcing people out of their own homes) is likely to reinforce whatever reactionary tendencies may exist in a community. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Uranus
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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The point is that threatening someone with state-sanctioned physical attack(and that is what we are talking about when we talk about forcing people out of their own homes) is likely to re-inforce whatever reactionary tendencies may exist in a community.
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I'm of the opinion that it doesn't matter with Muslims. They hate everyone. They say they are angry about the West's policy with Israel but thats just a pretence. If its not that, it Afghanistan. If its not Afghanistan, it will be abandoning Afghanistan. If its not Iraq, it will be about revenge in Iraq. If its not about revenge for Iraq, it will be about abandoning Iraq. The point is the hate is genuinely endless. After that are the numbers. The numbers are always more. That has to end.
Civil war is looming. If its not the extremists on my side it will be the ones on Islam's side and we seem to give a great big pass to them.
Yugoslavia was not so long ago and the reality isn't far away. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote: |
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your analogy is lost on me. |
The point is that threatening someone with state-sanctioned physical attack(and that is what we are talking about when we talk about forcing people out of their own homes) is likely to reinforce whatever reactionary tendencies may exist in a community. |
I'm not talking about state-sanctioned physical attack, I'm talking about banning an increasingly vioelnt and dangerous ideology. Close down the mosques, ban religious gatherings of Muslims, don't allow nationals to travel to Mecca...
ban it.
and for those Muslims for whom their religion is more important than their living in a free and prosperous society, they can move to a Muslim nation. And for the intelligent ones, they should be welcomed to stay, sans the Koran. |
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dulouz
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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And for the intelligent ones, they should be welcomed to stay, sans the Koran.
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How do determine which ones are intelligent? |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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sundubuman wrote: |
On the other hand wrote: |
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your analogy is lost on me. |
The point is that threatening someone with state-sanctioned physical attack(and that is what we are talking about when we talk about forcing people out of their own homes) is likely to reinforce whatever reactionary tendencies may exist in a community. |
I'm not talking about state-sanctioned physical attack, I'm talking about banning an increasingly vioelnt and dangerous ideology. Close down the mosques, ban religious gatherings of Muslims, don't allow nationals to travel to Mecca...
ban it.
and for those Muslims for whom their religion is more important than their living in a free and prosperous society, they can move to a Muslim nation. And for the intelligent ones, they should be welcomed to stay, sans the Koran. |
What happens to a link like this?
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Koran |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a poem I found on the web, that Sundubuman et al might appreciate.
(And, yes, I am posting it because it so so utterly godawful, and I am cynically hoping that my adversaries will rush to embrace it as their own. Point of information, Trudeau is a former Canadian Prime Minister, long-associated with multiculturalism. Adscam was a recent Liberal scandal.)
They closed the church for lack of congregation last week,
Older people moved away because they were meek,
New arrivals opened two new mosques today,
Devout people who came from very far away.
The politicians had gone global and international,
Didn�t represent the old people but multinational,
Multicultural as the old people all went,
Everyone adapting to demographic event.
It started with no control of incoming refugees,
After reading Trudeau�s Charter they all agreed,
That refugees go all the way to the Supreme Court,
To get politically correct appointee support.
And those who are not pleased about these events,
Are in danger of being branded as malcontents,
Or being called right wing red neck Nazis to boot,
So we all bow our heads or stand up and salute.
Our commitment to peace and the UN agenda,
As we listen daily to their Charter propaganda,
Will get us in trouble right up to our necks,
�Cause no one gets deported and no one ever checks.
We naively believe that politicians don�t lie,
Or those terrorists would never come out of the sky,
And that the status quo will eventually be changed,
Proportional representation might be arranged.
They will never allow referendums or recall,
Even if the people scream and holler and crawl,
They might loose their cushy jobs and all that power,
Adscam politicians would have to stop and glower. |
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