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[dulouz]

Banning people to do security concerns is OK.

[Kuros]

Banning Islam?

Retarded.

[dogbert]

[sundubuman]

I'm not Jewish. And I'm hardly a facist. But I do believe that violent movements, such as Islam, pose a threat to our freedoms.

[dogbert]

[sundubuman]

btw,

I'll take the "left" seriously when they protest for the freedom to be Buddhist in Saudi Arabia with even 1% of the energy with which they fulminate against Bush.

I'm pointing out the logical inconsistency of banning perceived dangerous "cults" while inviting tens of millions of Muslims, a religion that advocates the death penalty for apostates to live amongst a society that cherishes freedom.

I'm guessing there are tens of millions of Muslims who would love the opportunity to leave their dark age cult, but are afraid to do so. Maybe banning it would be a gift to those trapped in its clutches.

[igotthisguitar]

Polls don't get more simplistic than this do they?

Seems some people are doomed to an eternal black & white world of gross dual discrimination.

"CONSIDER" is the key word.

Cleary ALL THINGS must be considered, even those matters which make us feel uncomfortable, flabergasted, or prickly.

I'm likely not the only one out here who'll vote when there's a new "poll" posted

[huffdaddy]

[JLarter]

I'm disgusted at the racist attitudes that started this post.
As close members of my family are muslim, I am personally offended by your ignorance and attitude.

[sundubuman]

since when is Islam a race?????

Muslims are white, black, south Asia, East Asian Arab...

It is my turn to be personally offended BY YOUR IGNORANCE.

And are your relatives free to leave Islam? If they do, they would forever be "technically" under a sharia death warrant.

[igotthisguitar]

For once i agree with Dave's Rub-a-dub Man ...

To simply allege racism is indeed misguided.

Bigotted & chauvanistic is likely a lot more closer to the truth

[sundubuman]

since when is wanting to preserve your own civilization bigoted and chauvanistic.

where would you rather spend the rest of your days igtg, in a country like the Netherlands, Hawaii, or in Saudi Arabia?

Would steering clear of a Islamofacist nation such as Saudi Arabia qualify you as a bigot?

I on no way think those born into Islam are of less worth, are less capable, or have less potential to benefit mankind.....however, they are certainly less free....and I really don't want their religion, which as of late has come totally unhinged, to be a part of my society.

[sundubuman]

here's an example of why I'd prefer Islamic people to stay out of the west, and no I'm not referring to just Denver....


Colorado Couple Gets Charged for Virtual Slavery

Priscilla Rodriguez Reporting
KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO

DENVER, CO (KNX) -- Sarah Khonaizan, a Saudi woman accused with her husband of keeping an Indonesian maid as a virtual slave was sentenced to five years' probation and ordered to confined to her home until she leaves the country.

Khonaizan, 35, pleaded guilty in May to harboring an illegal immigrant.

In exchange, prosecutors dropped charges of forced labor and document servitude.

Khonaizan and her husband, Homaidan Al-Turki, hid the 24-year-old woman's passport and forced her to cook, clean and care for their five children in their Denver home, and that Al-Turki repeatedly sexually assaulted her.

The woman slept in the basement on a mattress and was paid less than two dollars a day, said the FBI.

Al-Turki was convicted on charges that included false imprisonment and unlawful sexual contact by use of force or intimidation. He is awaiting sentencing August 31.

[ddeubel]

If anything should be banned it should be this thread and the hate mongers who keep feeding all this.

But personally I am against all BANNING and it is true FREEDOM to let all decide how they want to live.

Good point Huffdaddy about handguns but I would say again, it isn't the handguns that kill but the idiots that want them, keep them, use them, without thought to the consequences.....

I would also caution (why should I even need to?) that Muslim immigrants have valid grievances and they also do a lot of the dirty jobs, just like other immigrants -- the vast majority who do not live off welfare or abuse the system. I would caution that we look at individuals and not "beliefs" which in any case are not universally the same but interpreted by people and enacted in a million different ways.

Further, there has not been any large increase in terrorist activity since 9/11. The world has always had terrorists, those who kill for wish to destabilise, get revenge, create a revolutionary climate or just plain kill. It has only been recently that we've labeled it so primly, all for a political agenda and to control populations, win elections and create economic profit for individuals at the top of the money chain.....We've bought into their game and we should cry out at our politicians to stop! We can still have security and hunt terrorists without all the propaganda, fear, there is a muslim terrorist behind every bush....song...

I would also caution that our own "ideology" though not properly framed as a religion, has its painful costs, its hate and its destruction. Let us first deal with that.

A good read by Cathy Young, an American journalist who consistently seems to ask the right questions about important issues......I will quote her conclusion regarding the present Jihad against Muslims and those who might say we are too soft etc.......exactly what sundubum and dulouz and other bigots are unpolitely saying.......she says,

[sundubuman]

seems as if some Norwegians understand what's at stake, from a few years ago....

KRISTIANSAND, NORWAY:
Right-wing politicians want to ban Islam

Carin Pettersson
19.07.04 12:00

Central members of Kristiansand Progress party claims Hitler�s �Mein Kampf� and the Koran are one of the same, and they want Islam banned in Norway.
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(EPA/Scanpix)

According to the Norwegian paper Dagbladet, central figures in Kristiansand Progress party (Frp) wants to ban Islam in Norway.

�We are not the only ones demanding this ban,� said Halvor Hulaas, chairperson in Krstiansand Frp to the paper. �This is an opinion that is well established in Scandinavian countries. We are now importing people with a religion that is practiced in the same way it was practiced when it was established in year 600. The freedom we have in Norway may be taken away from us if we do not start to have some demands to these immigrants.�

Karina Udn�s, deputy leader of the Progress party�s city council group in Kristiansand is pushing it even further.

�It is about high time Norway and Europe make the ideology Islam and the practice of this, illegal and punishable in the same way as Nazism,� Udn�s said. �The prophet Muhammad urged them to kill everyone infidel.�

�Udn�s� comparison of Nazism and Islam is supported by many in Frp,� Hulaas said. �The religion as it is practiced is a threat against our social system and way of life.�

He said that Kristiansand now lives under the threat of getting a large mosque in town.

�Of course, we are aware of what these mosques are used for,� Hulaas said.