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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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Google hits
"Ban Islam" 16,300
"Ban Judaism" 717
"Ban Christianity" 779
"Ban Buddhism" 86
"Ban Hinduism" 35
hmm....I guess I wasn't the first to feel this might be a good idea in certain places..... |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| sundubuman wrote: |
Google hits
"Ban Islam" 16,300
"Ban Judaism" 717
"Ban Christianity" 779
"Ban Buddhism" 86
"Ban Hinduism" 35
hmm....I guess I wasn't the first to feel this might be a good idea in certain places..... |
Well, if that's the tact you wanna take, let's at least try & round out the picture 
899,000 for Ban Zionism. (0.16 seconds)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ban+zionism
How about the world BANS "banning"?
157,000,000 for ban banning
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=ban+banning |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I would also caution (why should I even need to?) that Muslim immigrants have valid grievances and they also do a lot of the dirty jobs, just like other immigrants -- the vast majority who do not live off welfare or abuse the system |
Everyone has 'valid grievances'. I am sure there are some Tamils living in the UK who have 'grievances' against British foreign policy towards Sri Lanka. I am sure there are some Chinese anti-Communists that have 'grievances' against our foreign policy towards China.
Yet, it is only the Muslim community that produces individuals who think that mass murder and terrorism, against their own country, is a legitimate protest against such grievances.
By the way, in Denmark Muslims make up less than 5% of the population, yet receive something like 40% of welfare benefits. A wonderful contribution to society indeed. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| sundubuman wrote: |
Google hits
"Ban Islam" 16,300
"Ban Judaism" 717
"Ban Christianity" 779
"Ban Buddhism" 86
"Ban Hinduism" 35
hmm....I guess I wasn't the first to feel this might be a good idea in certain places..... |
Well, if that's the tact you wanna take, let's at least try & round out the picture
899,000 for Ban Zionism. (0.16 seconds)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ban+zionism
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actually, to make it fair, you need to use the quote marks.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22ban+zion%22&btnG=Search
Results 1 - 10 of about 80 for "ban zion". (0.74 seconds)
ditto
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22ban+banning%22&btnG=Search
Results 1 - 10 of about 512 for "ban banning". (0.08 seconds)
Not that Google search results mean anything, or give any credence to a viewpoint.
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,640 for "bush is gay". (0.13 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 30,900 for "the world has ended". (0.33 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 21,700 for "blacks are inferior". (0.03 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 834,000 for "jesus loves you". (0.14 seconds) |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
Yet, it is only the Muslim community that produces individuals who think that mass murder and terrorism, against their own country, is a legitimate protest against such grievances.
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Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Eric Rudolph, or Patrick Magee? How about Charles Manson, Lynette Fromme, Thomas Blanton, or Byron De La Beckwith? |
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JLarter
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:54 am Post subject: |
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How about banning the US from starting wars?
There would be far fewer innocent deaths from that.
I feel far safer walking through Cairo than I ever have done walking through any US city.
If I ever meet the OP, I'm gonna kick his ass for suggesting some of my family should be banned from Western countries. |
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Mastaoos69
Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| But I do believe that violent movements, such as Islam, pose a threat to our freedoms |
Hahahahahaha...... Like JLarter said, you only have yourself to blame for your ignorance. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:56 am Post subject: |
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as you do for yours.
If you are such a fan of Islam, move to Saudi Arabia already. |
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Caledonian Craig
Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Location: Edinburgh
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Another well thought out post from an intellectual heavy-weight.
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not Jewish. And I'm hardly a facist. But I do believe that violent movements, such as Islam, pose a threat to our freedoms. |
Sure you're not.
I have not once heard a non-Jewish American refer to "Samaria and Judea" seriously in a non-historical context. Yet you have done that repeatedly.
You also take pro-Israel positions that no WASP would take. The only non-Jews in America who come close to your level of partisanship are bought politicians and the wackiest of the Christian fundamentals.
Your denial is unconvincing. |
What are you the Nazi SS, searching out "Jews"??? I've researched the history of the situation, and I believe that the original name of the area in dispute is Judea and Samaria, which it has been called for millenia. The "West Bank" dates from 67.
The reason you don't hear people calling the area by its proper historical name is because everybody seems to be overly worried about not pissing off bloodthirsty Muslims who riot when a Danish cartoon is drawn.
Think of me as ahead of the curve on this one. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| and dogbert, I am increasngly convinced that you are a closet anti-semite, actually, the closet door flies open at times, so I take that back. |
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JLarter
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| Think of me as ahead of the curve on this one. |
I think I'll choose to think of you as a racist bastard who believes everything the media says. Don't forget Christians have always been the opressors in the past. i think they have done more to harm the world in history. Were the crusades a fair, just idea? Didn't think so. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Were the crusades a fair, just idea? Didn't think so.
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No, but it was 800 years ago. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: |
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whatever.....
I again say,
ban this dark age cult.
And again, remind me why it is racist to be anti-Islam, as there are people of every race who are both Islamic and non-Islamic.
Race is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to this debate.
All races deserve to live without this totalitarian cult.
Last edited by sundubuman on Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:43 am; edited 1 time in total |
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JLarter
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| I say ban you. In fact single minded twats tw*ts like you should be put down. |
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