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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:47 am Post subject: Korean Universities Rankings |
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Korean Universities Miss Top 100
Korean universities failed to be listed in the top 100 global universities selected by Newsweek, the popular U.S. weekly news magazine....
The criteria used in the assessment was as follows: 50 percent based on the quality of published research papers; 40 percent based on the number of foreign professors, overseas exchange students and the ratio of students to professors; and 10 percent to the size and quality of the universities� libraries.
By Kang Shin-who, Korea Times (August 14, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200608/kt2006081418392111990.htm
The Complete List: The Top 100 Global Universities
Newsweek International (August 13, 2006)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14321230
Top 500 World Universities
Institute of Higher Education, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/ARWU2005TOP500list.htm
Introducing the Macleans.ca University Research Tool
http://www.macleans.ca/universities/article.jsp?content=20060614_144614_6444
University Research Tool
http://www.macleans.ca/universities/tool.jsp
USNews.com: America's Best Colleges 2006: National Universities
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php
The 2005 university rankings
http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2005/table/0,,-5163901,00.html
World Universities' ranking on the Web: Top Asia
http://www.webometrics.info/top100_continent.asp-cont=asia.htm
World Universities' Ranking on the Web: Top 3000 World Ranking
http://www.webometrics.info/top3000.asp.htm |
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RobinH
Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: Mid-bulk transport, standard radeon accelerator core, class code 03-K64--Firefly.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| Is there a list somewhere ranking only Korean unis? I'd be interested to see where the school I just signed on with falls. |
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LL Moonmanhead
Joined: 21 Mar 2005
Location: yo momma
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| WooHooo!!! I went to the 49th best university in the world!!!! |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| 40 percent based on the number of foreign professors |
Seems a rather arbitrary way to rank a university. Also, this would favour universities in English speaking countries, as professors from overseas are far more likely to speak English, and thus be able to work in a university in the UK or the USA, than speak, say, Korean or Japanese. |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:18 am Post subject: |
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I used to work for a university as a consultant on helping them market themselves in East Asia.
They were specifically focussing on bumping up the numbers used as indicators to get themselves higher up the rankings. It was pathetic really.
The sad thing is that it worked when visiting East Asia at conferences and seminars.
To me it is the equivalent of learning how to to TOEIC exams in lieu of actually being good enough at English to do well in them. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
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| 40 percent based on the number of foreign professors |
Seems a rather arbitrary way to rank a university. Also, this would favour universities in English speaking countries, as professors from overseas are far more likely to speak English, and thus be able to work in a university in the UK or the USA, than speak, say, Korean or Japanese. |
Which would explain why there is only one Asian university in the top 100. College rankings are bunk. Too much depends upon the individual and their course of study to make these sorts of generalizations. I went to a top 20 university, but it was a liberal arts school - an engineering wannabe would be SOL. Just one example out of many. |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| bigverne wrote: |
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| 40 percent based on the number of foreign professors |
Seems a rather arbitrary way to rank a university. Also, this would favour universities in English speaking countries, as professors from overseas are far more likely to speak English, and thus be able to work in a university in the UK or the USA, than speak, say, Korean or Japanese. |
Which would explain why there is only one Asian university in the top 100. College rankings are bunk. Too much depends upon the individual and their course of study to make these sorts of generalizations. I went to a top 20 university, but it was a liberal arts school - an engineering wannabe would be SOL. Just one example out of many. |
Three? At glance I saw Universities from Tokyo, Kyoto, Nagoya and Singapore. Maybe there are more, but I don't feel like counting right now. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: |
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92. University of Leuven
Should I be proud?
o Yes I am. |
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Nemo
Joined: 28 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Went to a school in the Top 30.
Am I proud? Not really. I know many of the "lower" ranked schools have the same, if not better, quality of education as my alma mater. And in some cases, much cheaper too. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Nemo wrote: |
Went to a school in the Top 30.
Am I proud? Not really. I know many of the "lower" ranked schools have the same, if not better, quality of education as my alma mater. And in some cases, much cheaper too. |
K.U.Leuven is Free for all participants, except MBA programs.
it is located in a town of 20.000 inhabitants with 26.000 students of which approxiamtely 4.000 are non-belgians. Could be more but not sure. |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Yippee! My PhD's from one of the top 35 (which actually gives you a good idea of where it ranks; it ain't number 1!). But for PhD's this is silly - it's not the university, but the department that matters, and my department was probably ranked lower in the field than the university overall. And besides, at that level, it who you worked with, not where, that counts.
More evidence that all this is bunk. There are two Turkish universities listed in the top 500. Everyone in Turkey knows they aren't in the top 3 in the country. Hacettepe got bumped up by the publications from it's medical school, which is very good, but who knows how Istanbul University made the list. No mention of Middle East Technical University, Bogazici or Bilkent? C'mon! |
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Bo Peabody
Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Yeah... I can say with a bit of confidence, that the list is cra p.
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Woland wrote: |
| Yippee! My PhD's from one of the top 35 (which actually gives you a good idea of where it ranks; it ain't number 1!). |
Check the US News & World Report link, you come out much better (even ahead of my school, so take it with a big grain of salt  ).
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Which would explain why there is only one Asian university in the top 100. College rankings are bunk. Too much depends upon the individual and their course of study to make these sorts of generalizations. I went to a top 20 university, but it was a liberal arts school - an engineering wannabe would be SOL. Just one example out of many. |
Three? At glance I saw Universities from Tokyo, Kyoto, Nagoya and Singapore. Maybe there are more, but I don't feel like counting right now. |
Hmm, I could swear that one of the links shows the top 100 for each continent and it had only one Asian school with a top 100 world wide ranking. But I can't find it now. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| RobinH wrote: |
| Is there a list somewhere ranking only Korean unis? I'd be interested to see where the school I just signed on with falls. |
Ewha Tops University Performance Ranking
By Chung Ah-young, Korea Times (February 21, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200502/kt2005022118031810160.htm
Pohang still Korea's No. 1 school
KAIST, Seoul National take next slots
Pohang University of Science and Technology was ranked as the nation's best university in the Joong-Ang Ilbo's 2004 survey of Korean colleges.
by Special Reporting Team, JoongAng Daily (September 19, 2004)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200409/19/200409192222379879900090409041.html
Pohang University picked as the best for 4th time
Pohang University of Science and Technology was ranked as the best university overall in the JoongAng Ilbo's 10th annual survey of higher education in Korea. It was the fourth time that Pohang was rated as the No. 1 school by the newspaper's judges. The study covered 123 of Korea's universities.
by Special Reporting Team, JoongAng Daily (September 25, 2003)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200309/25/200309250018157909900090409041.html
Top Universities
1. 서울대학교
2. 연세대학교
3. 고려대학교
4. 서강대학교
5. 이화여자대학교
6. 한양대학교
7. 부산대학교
8. 한국외국어대학교
9. 중앙대학교
10. 경북대학교
http://kdaq.empas.com/qna/3291060?l=e
2003-07-22
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http://www.donga.com/docs/news/img/200310/300283_31b.jpg
Another List of Top Universities
1. 포항공대
2. 한국과학기술원
3. 서울대
4. 연세대
5. 한양대
6. 고려대
7. 경북대, 성균관대
9. 서강대
10. 인하대
11. 이화여대
12. 인제대
13. 부산대
14. 세종대, 순천대, 전북대 |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Considering that Korea University just had a 1.3M$ to expand their uni.
I think the scales need to be reviewed.
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