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Where can you get the most vacation?
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cmr



Joined: 22 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Where can you get the most vacation? Reply with quote

What are the jobs that offer a nice vacation package as opposed to the standard 10 days off with hagwons or the 14 days with the public schools (although, it is usually more)?

I read that universities have much more vacation, but is that the only option?
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick a job based on vacation time. Nice.

It's nice to see a lazy b@stard like myslef here:)

Uni is where it's at. Or unemployed. You can get more vacation doing that. Oh Oh Oh, male stripper...I bet you get a lot of free time with a job like that.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not working is the best vacation.

Or did you mean "PAID" vacation?
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pak Yu Man wrote:
Pick a job based on vacation time. Nice.

It's nice to see a lazy b@stard like myslef here:)

Uni is where it's at. Or unemployed. You can get more vacation doing that. Oh Oh Oh, male stripper...I bet you get a lot of free time with a job like that.


Become a fisherman on the East Coast of Canada. Good old pogey (unemployment insurance) Wink
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Where can you get the most vacation? Reply with quote

cmr wrote:
What are the jobs that offer a nice vacation package as opposed to the standard 10 days off with hagwons or the 14 days with the public schools (although, it is usually more)?

I read that universities have much more vacation, but is that the only option?


Do a public school gig. Less to worry about.

When you are finished your contract, take a 3-4 month vacation on your favorite beach. Build friends and contacts.

When you feel like working again, land a new contract. You will have been here so you will know your way around and have some contacts.

REPEAT the process for a dozen or so years. Then retire on the beach you have been camped out at. You should own 1/2 of it by then.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Universities for sure, but avoid the ones that make their teachers do mandatory, unpaid camps as part of their overall compensation scheme.

Figure that you'll teach 15 week semester, but that at least one week is usually thrown to the wayside with a festival or holiday. You also don't really teach during midterms or finals.

You get roughly 2.5 months off in the summer and winter. Most schools only have you working four days a week, so, given the free fridays, that's another 30 days off. All in all, if you really want to 'go lazy', you can envision yourself actually only working 6 months a year plus or minus. Not bad.

If you are serious about working over the long-term, though, then the time off is used to gain additional certifications, attend courses, or publish. Once you have all the degrees and certification out of the way, though, publishing a paper a year, or semester for that matter, isn't that big of a time stealer. Depends on how motivated you are.

Having said all this, if you are young and just staring out in ESL here at the university level, beware. Already, there have been developments that spell the end of the line here in Korea. They are already hiring anyone with a bit of experience and a BA and giving severely diminished compensation packages and increased work loads. MAs are competing for fewer and fewer decent positions. To the best of my knowledge, there are only about 3-4 universities worth teaching at in all of Korea for those with MAs, certifications, and experience. Ph.D.s are getting on in some of the bigger schools, and, if Korea goes the way of Japan, will have secure positions over the long haul, or be able to move from school to school with little variation in terms of employment.

Most of the highly qualified people I know are frustrated with the market here unless they are at one of the very few worthwhile institutions I alluded to before. Many are applying to schools in the middle east, Hong Kong, and Japan. The Korean university system is hollowing out as more and more students go abroad to study, realizing that Korean degrees, for the most part, are not competitve, either here or in other countries. Rather than trying to bolster necessary English programs, the universities are trying to cut corners by cheapening their core liberal arts classes.
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spinario



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: daegu

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, there are only about 3-4 universities worth teaching at in all of Korea for those with MAs, certifications, and experience.


Assume I am dense.

Name those universities.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, please. Name them.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start researching...or guessing. Shouldn't take long to figure out. None of them require summer/winter camps or mandatory teaching during breaks, none of them have more than 12 base contact hours, and all of them offer pay of at least 2.5. All of them require an MA and experience.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Where can you get the most vacation?