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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Great song. I used to dance to that in the early 80's disco's before I was into Dexy's. Even then I thought Kevin Rowlands voice was very interesting. Then I heard Searching For the Young Soul Rebels (my avatar) then I heard Don't Stand Me Down. My first thought..... Kevin Rowland is/was a genius. Don't Stand Me Down is such a perfect album.
Christ! I've just remembered. I have Graham Day's autograph on a copy of a Mod fanzine from about 1984. Faraway Voices. A mod fanzine using a line from The Jam's Down in the Tube Station at Midnight. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Considering that DMR video has got to be from 79 or so, and considering it's on youtube (soon to be known as 'craptube', given the quality and resolution of most of the files there) I thought it was pretty decent quality/resolution for one of the earliest of music videos.
[Sparkles, go ahead and edit the topic of this thread to "Those SOBs hijacked my thread!" it's only fair] |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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however, the new outbreak album, "failure" is one of the best hardcore records ever recorded.
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Sparkles, you're taking crazy pills.
I'm listening to the new outkast album right now, and unless the second half is total sh*t, I don't see how you can call it terrible. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
Sparkles, you're taking crazy pills.
I'm listening to the new outkast album right now, and unless the second half is total sh*t, I don't see how you can call it terrible. |
I agree. After reading the OP, I went out and picked up the album. There were at least 4 or 5 tracks that grabbed me right from the jump, which is rare for an Outkast album.
It usually takes me a few months before I really get into their work, but so far it's pretty solid.
There's an entire new crop of "Hey Ya!" Outkast fans who will wonder who the hell they're listening to, because this one goes back to some of their stankier roots.
Proud to say I bought the Southernplayalisticcadillacfunkymusic cassette the day it was released in the US, back in '93. One of the few hip hop acts that is still innovating.  |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Proud to say I bought the Southernplayalisticcadillacfunkymusic cassette the day it was released in the US, back in '93. One of the few hip hop acts that is still innovating. |
That's really the only one I could stomach all the way through. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
| There's an entire new crop of "Hey Ya!" Outkast fans who will wonder who the hell they're listening to, because this one goes back to some of their stankier roots. |
I've been a fan since their first album, too (which by the way was released in '94, not '93), and it would be terrific if Idlewild really were a return to their roots -- but it's not. Mighty O is the album's ONLY outstanding song. Life Is A Musical and Mutron Angel (which isn't even an Outkast song) are very good, and the rest are mediocre to downright terrible (Buggface, In Your Dreams, Greatest Show On Earth, and ESPECIALLY the excrutiatingly awful A Bad Note).
It'd be great if, like you said, Dre and Big Boi really were still innovating hip-hop, but they're not; they basically replicated their last album, only crapped it up something terrible. The fact is Big Boi apparently can't produce a track which doesn't have a crappy R&B hook, and Dre has bought too much into his own hype. The album is sloppy and a huge disappointment to most hardcore 'Kast fans. Plus, Outkast haven't been a group since 2000, but that's a whole 'nother issue.
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Hollywood Divorce? The Train? How can you not dig these songs?
And as far as hooks go, Outkast has always had hip-hop hooks on 90% of their songs.
Me and you...yo mama and yo cousin too...
Ain't no thang but a chicken wang...
Git up, git out, and git somethin'
Old school playas to new school foos, 'Kast keep it jumpin' like kangaroos
So fresh and so clean...
Them dirty boys turn yo poundcake to red velvet...
Humble as a mumble in the jungle...
Hootie hoooooo........tight like hallways, smoked out always...
I could go on and on...
Saying that Big Boi can't produce a song without hooks is like saying Eric Clapton can't write a song without guitar. Up until and even including the last album, I think his hooks have been the main reason for Outkast's commercial success. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
| Hollywood Divorce? The Train? How can you not dig these songs? |
They're both decent, though far from spectacular.
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And as far as hooks go, Outkast has always had hip-hop hooks on 90% of their songs.
Me and you...yo mama and yo cousin too...
Ain't no thang but a chicken wang...
Git up, git out, and git somethin'
Old school playas to new school foos, 'Kast keep it jumpin' like kangaroos
So fresh and so clean...
Them dirty boys turn yo poundcake to red velvet...
Humble as a mumble in the jungle...
Hootie hoooooo........tight like hallways, smoked out always...
I could go on and on... |
Most of the hooks you cited aren't sung, and the one's that are aren't as syrupy as the R&B hooks on damn near every Big Boi cut on Idlewild. That's far from innovative. Does Sleepy Brown have incriminating evidence against Big Boi or something?
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| Saying that Big Boi can't produce a song without hooks is like saying Eric Clapton can't write a song without guitar. Up until and even including the last album, I think his hooks have been the main reason for Outkast's commercial success. |
Again, I have nothing against hooks. Where I take issue is when said hooks are dull and uncreative. The R&B hooks on Idlewild are booty, plain and simple. Just like the album as a whole. Honestly, I bought the thing the day it was released (I thought -- prayed -- that it would sound better on my stereo than on my PC), and listened to it twice. It's now collecting dust on my shelf.
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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Hollywood Divorce is a classic already in my book.
Although without lil' wayne, I would have trouble saying that. |
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kato
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: Tejas
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| Funny thing is, if they wanted to, they could turn out awesome hip hop tracks one after another...but they're tired of it...so I give them respect for trying different things and pushing the envelope (a syndrome alot of talented musicians develop). That being said, Aquemini is one of the best albums ever... |
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