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[endo]

hey endoftheworld1d,

I have no advice to give you, but I wish you the best of luck. I respect you for attempting to go through with your dream.

A lot of people have dreams, however, very fiew actually go for them.

[cuckoo for kimchi]

Hey endofthewor1d, if you need a bartender let me know...I have about 100 years experience of dealing with drunks..well...not 100.....

[brento1138]

You know, your post made me think about this bar in Daegu opened up by some guy named "Moose." He's a Canadian, name of the bar is Thunderbird and last I saw, it was the most active bar in the city... guy probably makes a ton of cash. Talk to him. Don't have his contact info, but if anyone else does, he's probably the guy you wanna talk to.

[endofthewor1d]

thanks for the encouragement, endo. and thanks for the info, brento. i looked it up on the internet, and the bar you're referring to has a website. as soon as i get a free minute, i'll try to contact them via email.

[endofthewor1d]

i had what i think is a good idea for a logo, and i've been trying to develop it a bit. i thought i'd open what i have up for feedback from the forum. please bear in mind that i have little artistic talent and that these were done with the windows paint program.
which one do you prefer? do they both suck? all comments, criticisms, and suggestions welcome.


this was my first attempt.


this was my second attempt, thinking it might look a little more sleek and be easier to work with having just two colors.


thanks!

[joyfulgirl]

i like 'em both, endoftheworld...

but i'd go with the first one. clever. and jumps out at the drunken eye more than the blue one.

good luck with it!

[JongnoGuru]

The first design is better, but it needs something... Neon brea-- neon bosoms. With flashing nipples. And maybe a roulette wheel?

The second doesn't do it. It needs oxygen. Rather reminds one of an airline logo. Pan Am. That could be the logo on door to the Pan Am VIP lounge.

[otis]

My wife and I owned a bar in Korea.

My in-laws bought it for us. It was in Daejon.

My advice? Target the Koreans before you go for the white people. Koreans spend a lot of money. Where they get it, I don't know. Another plus about Koreans is that they seldom cause trouble. Don't get me wrong. They might drink too much and puke all over the place. But they aren't--for the most part--starting fights and breaking the furniture.

Is it a good life? I don't know.

Financially, it's up and down. The most jack I made in one night was two grand. However, the next night, I don't even think I made fifty bucks. You have to get used to ups and downs.

Furthermore, it does become a prison. You're stuck in that joint all the time.

If the bar life is for you, then go for it. You're going to have lots of competition, and it will take about six months before you start seeing some type of profit.

However, it can be lucrative if you wait it out.

[Benicio]

Once I got out of the hospitality industry, I swore I'd never go back.
When everyone else is off work and having a good time, you're the one working and serving them.

Owning a bar is not a non-stop good time. It is real work and it can be real tiring. The people I know who own bars spend most of their time in them and they are tired- sleep all day and up all night pretending to be the "good time bar man/woman". The vampire life can be very draining.

You seem to be intent on doing this. You plan to start small, so that is good.

It was pointed out in another post that friends of the bar owner expect freebies.
You said that you plan to work it with your wife and maybe her brother?
Do either your wife or brother-in-law expect their friends to be dropping by your bar? If so, they will expect free drinks and a free loading time.
This happens to my Korean friends who run bars. Their friends expect to be comped a lot of the time. They lay on the guilt trip "Hey, we are friends. You can give your friends free drinks, right? Make money off those who are not your friends." If they refuse, the person says "What, we aren't friends?". Happens all the time.

Then, if you get a bit successful and can hire staff, so that you don't have to be there all the time, well, when you are not there, your staff will pocket cash and give free drinks to their friends.
My dad's best friend finally sold his bar because he got tired of having to be there all the time. When he wasn't there, the barmaids were pocketing the profits.
Here in Busan, my friend got his bar up and running and it was doing very well. He left it in charge of the manager, whom he trusted, so he could take a bit of time off. The place was packed, but he was only breaking even. When he finally got back in there to get his house in order, he found out that the manager and the staff were robbing him blind.

I just needed to add a few more things for you to think about. I would not want you to be blindsided by these possible problems.

Good luck!

[endofthewor1d]

[endofthewor1d]

[gang ah jee]

Would atheists be welcome at this bar?

[endofthewor1d]

it's going to be called "end of the world". athiests would be the life of the party.

[superdave]

hey, i've just been reading this thread because you posted a comment on another topic:

[shifter2009]