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Yo!Chingo
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dogbert
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As usual, Pat nails it:
Crux of the problem?
� Both parties are paralyzed by guilt over American past racial sins.
Solution.
� A ten-year moratorium on all legal immigration, at the level JFK favored in 1958 -- 150,000 to 250,000 a year. |
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bucheon bum
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| good luck enforcing that one. |
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Leslie Cheswyck
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| That's what I llike about you, BB; you're just filled to overflowing with confidence. |
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bucheon bum
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oh I am; I'm quite confident that dogbert's "dream" won't become a reality.  |
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dogbert
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| oh I am; I'm quite confident that dogbert's "dream" won't become a reality. |
Agreeing with JFK is good company. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| oh I am; I'm quite confident that dogbert's "dream" won't become a reality. |
Agreeing with JFK is good company. |
JFK was really quite weak in several areas. I am very much with Gore Vidal on Kennedy (see his historical novel Washington D.C.).
But let's set that aside for a moment. I do not believe that talking about what JFK may have said in 1958 can have too much relevance for the problems we are facing in 2006. |
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dogbert
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| dogbert wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| oh I am; I'm quite confident that dogbert's "dream" won't become a reality. |
Agreeing with JFK is good company. |
JFK was really quite weak in several areas. I am very much with Gore Vidal on Kennedy (see his historical novel Washington D.C.).
But let's set that aside for a moment. I do not believe that talking about what JFK may have said in 1958 can have too much relevance for the problems we are facing in 2006. |
So your answer to these problems is no restrictions on immigration? I would say that JFK's advice is even more relevant to these problems since not following his advice in the first place (thanks LBJ!) has caused these very same problems. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| So your answer to these problems is no restrictions on immigration? |
That's not what I read Gopher as saying. |
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dogbert
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| So your answer to these problems is no restrictions on immigration? |
That's not what I read Gopher as saying. |
He's saying that what JFK said about stricter limits on legal immigration is irrelevant to today's problems.
Ergo, he does not favor restrictions. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote:
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So your answer to these problems is no restrictions on immigration?
That's not what I read Gopher as saying.
He's saying that what JFK said about stricter limits on legal immigration is irrelevant to today's problems.
Ergo, he does not favor restrictions.
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Couldn't it also be that he favours limitations, but just not as strict as the ones proposed by JFK? |
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