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*POOF*: A disappearing act
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: *POOF*: A disappearing act Reply with quote

I work in Incheon at a public school. I've gotten to know all of the teachers in my area. We've had several new teachers in our area. One of them I met a few times, he was really nice and seemed to be getting alone quite well.

So I went to one of the school camps this morning and got told he went home. Just up and left. It's so weird because you think you know someone and they seem just fine, but then it turns out they were unhappy being here. I think he was here for about four weeks or so.
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Panic



Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no doubt Korea can sometimes get you down. Also I would say that summer is the hardest season.

What I found sad about your story is that the person didn't let you know they were unhappy and thinking of moving on.

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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: *POOF*: A disappearing act Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
I work in Incheon at a public school. I've gotten to know all of the teachers in my area. We've had several new teachers in our area. One of them I met a few times, he was really nice and seemed to be getting alone quite well.

So I went to one of the school camps this morning and got told he went home. Just up and left. It's so weird because you think you know someone and they seem just fine, but then it turns out they were unhappy being here. I think he was here for about four weeks or so.


Was he a dude from California? The exact same thing happened to some Korean English teachers at a school I know. Went on a vacation and never came back.
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RobinH



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people just can't hack it.
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobinH wrote:
Some people just can't hack it.


Or just have a low tolerance level for B.S. Very Happy
For some, it just takes a clash with the Korean boss to send them packing.
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon Robin, let's be fair. It's not always easy to be here in Korea.

Does the Incheon program for ESL teachers have regular meetings like the Gepik program? Do the teachers meet regularly to discuss their jobs and their lives in Korea? Just curious because I know when I worked in Japan it was a huge help just to meet up once a month and let everyone know how things were going. I'm not even talking about meeting up with friends, I'm talking about discussing the job with other teachers and getting help if needed. They would retain more teachers if they only implemented a system like this for us.

Sody
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sody wrote:
C'mon Robin, let's be fair. It's not always easy to be here in Korea.

Does the Incheon program for ESL teachers have regular meetings like the Gepik program? Do the teachers meet regularly to discuss their jobs and their lives in Korea? Just curious because I know when I worked in Japan it was a huge help just to meet up once a month and let everyone know how things were going. I'm not even talking about meeting up with friends, I'm talking about discussing the job with other teachers and getting help if needed. They would retain more teachers if they only implemented a system like this for us.

Sody


Yes, I completely agree. The whole idea of hiring teachers who've never been to Korea before, have never taught before, and don't speak Korean, to be thrown in huge irregular classes with no support seems like a recipe for disaster. My prediction over the next 5 ears is that the government will quietly squash the law about having native speakers in public schools, or they'll reduce the role of a native speaker to much like the role of an ALT in Japan; just a warm-bodied tape-recorder for the Japanese teacher to use at their will.
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SeniorEnglish



Joined: 18 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's nothin. At my old school, there were 2 Kiwi girls that up and left in the middle of the night. It was the week before intensive and the school was even looking for 2 additional teachers. There was one guy that gave hos notice, so the owner gave him a letter of release, He changed to a student visa with a month of work left. He sent a text message the day after he was paid saying he wouldn't come again. After taking on many of his classes and all my breaks gone, it pisses me off whenever I see him around the departs.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've known two guys who left in less than a month. Seems to me they didn't give it much of a chance. Even if the job sucked, they might have tried another? I think they figured out fast that the work/cullture was not for them.
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RobinH



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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C'mon Robin, let's be fair. It's not always easy to be here in Korea.


Sody,

What's unfair about it? Some people cannot function in this environment, for whatever reason. They are better off elsewhere and good luck to them.
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Billy Pilgrim



Joined: 08 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
I've known two guys who left in less than a month. Seems to me they didn't give it much of a chance. Even if the job sucked, they might have tried another? I think they figured out fast that the work/cullture was not for them.


Fair enough. That's a better idea than sticking it out and whining about it.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fair enough. That's a better idea than sticking it out and whining about it.


Definately.

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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: *POOF*: A disappearing act Reply with quote

stumptown wrote:
Milwaukiedave wrote:
I work in Incheon at a public school. I've gotten to know all of the teachers in my area. We've had several new teachers in our area. One of them I met a few times, he was really nice and seemed to be getting alone quite well.

So I went to one of the school camps this morning and got told he went home. Just up and left. It's so weird because you think you know someone and they seem just fine, but then it turns out they were unhappy being here. I think he was here for about four weeks or so.


Was he a dude from California? The exact same thing happened to some Korean English teachers at a school I know. Went on a vacation and never came back.


Yes, you are correct. I emailed him and got a response.
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bhog



Joined: 22 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I'm just nervous because I'm on the way soon, but what is the big turn-off about the place. Reading threads like these makes me wish I had a few more weeks to think about coming over.
What is the hardest part? Is it the job, people, or just day to day living in a new environment?
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't speak for others, but for me it was getting use to the way things are done here. In general, Koreans are disorganized and leave everything until the last minute. My style is to be prepared and organized especially when a big event is coming up.

Anytime you have people from diffrent cultures, there are communication issues or misunderstandings. From my standpoint, those have become much less of an issue.

The other (minor) issue is that I don't eat alot of Korean food. I really dislike seafood. I have found ways around it though and I have found some Korean food I like. Now a days I cook at home most of the time anyway.
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