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Unreal
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 Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: E-2 designated countries |
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| I've heard several times that there are only seven countries designated by Korean government from which English teachers must hold a passport in order to obtain an E-2 visa (US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, South Africa). I've checked out the Korean immigration and Ministry of Justice websites but can't find this information. Can someone provide a link or instructions on how I can find this information directly from the source? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: E-2 designated countries |
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| I've heard several times that there are only seven countries designated by Korean government from which English teachers must hold a passport in order to obtain an E-2 visa (US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, South Africa). I've checked out the Korean immigration and Ministry of Justice websites but can't find this information. Can someone provide a link or instructions on how I can find this information directly from the source? |
It was in the anex section and also on several of the Korean Consulate websites but I see that it (the anex page) has been changed and updated since 2002 (but is still behind/not completely current with 2006 policies).
The primary reasoning behind the policy of "only those the 7 countries" was:
a) Korea wouldn't be flooded by economic refugees from 3rd world countries
b) Documentation from those countries is hard to verify
c) Originally, Ireland was NOT on the list. It was added a few short years ago. Koreans didn't realize there was a difference between the UK and Ireland and that the Irish spoke English.
I'll see if I can dig up the old file in one of my archives somewhere. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans didn't realize there was a difference between the UK and Ireland and that the Irish spoke English.
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That's possible. It's also possible they thought all Irish spoke like Barry Fitzgerald (How Green Was My Valley, Going My Way, The Quiet Man) and didn't want any part of it. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think South Africa is on the list. I have not met any South Africans in Korea. I know that South Africans can teach in Taiwan. Furthermore, the schools that advertise on Dave's do not advertise for South Africans. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| JZer wrote: |
I don't think South Africa is on the list. I have not met any South Africans in Korea. I know that South Africans can teach in Taiwan. Furthermore, the schools that advertise on Dave's do not advertise for South Africans. |
I have met at least 4 South Africans teaching either in public schools or Hagwons. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Did they have an E-2 or were they on a working holiday visa? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Did they have an E-2 or were they on a working holiday visa? |
The South Africans i have met were on E2s. |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:02 am Post subject: |
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The E-2 is not specific to teaching English. It's for teaching language. To be eligible for an E-2 to teach English, you must be a citizen of either Canada, US, Australia, New Zeland, UK, Ireland or South Africa.
To get an E-2 to teach French, you'd likely have to be from France (any other countries where French is spoken as an offical language?). |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| prairieboy wrote: |
The E-2 is not specific to teaching English. It's for teaching language. To be eligible for an E-2 to teach English, you must be a citizen of either Canada, US, Australia, New Zeland, UK, Ireland or South Africa.
To get an E-2 to teach French, you'd likely have to be from France (any other countries where French is spoken as an offical language?). |
Yes, for an E2 to teach French you could have graduated from one of the FRENCH universities in Canada:
Universit� Laval (Quebec City)
Universit� de Montr�al (Montreal)
Universit� du Qu�bec
Universit� de Sherbrooke (Sherbrooke)
French is an OFFICIAL language in Canada (unless you are from Alberta - those rednecks can't speak anithang uther than oil-patch.
BUT, since this is an ESL board, one would usually make the assumption that the English E2 is the one in question unless there is something in the original post to indicate otherwise.
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HydePark
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Have a look at the Ministry of Education & Human Resources Development site:
http://english.moe.go.kr/html/guide/?menuno=02
In the "FAQ" section, #9 (What are the qualifications required to teach English in Korea at the primary or secondary level?) states there are six major English speaking countries: Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States of America |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ministry of Education and Immigration are different government agencies. Immigration recognizes 7 English speaking countries hence the E-2 visa.
Also, in order to be fully legal, your degree must be presented to the MOE in your area. It must be from a university in an English speaking country.
If the MOE only recognizes 6 English speaking countries (not South Africa) then it begs the question why there are legal South African English teachers?
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HydePark
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it certainly doesn't surprise me that the current rule and what's actually in practice differ! 
Just wanted to respond to the OP's request
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| I've heard several times that there are only seven countries designated by Korean government from which English teachers must hold a passport in order to obtain an E-2 visa |
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| Can someone provide a link or instructions on how I can find this information directly from the source? |
As prairieboy points out
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| Ministry of Education and Immigration are different government agencies. |
So, the people who approve our work documents and the people who let us into the country have different perspectives on this issue...thus allowing for all kinds of loop holes and ambiguity.  |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| HydePark wrote: |
Yes, it certainly doesn't surprise me that the current rule and what's actually in practice differ!
Just wanted to respond to the OP's request
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| I've heard several times that there are only seven countries designated by Korean government from which English teachers must hold a passport in order to obtain an E-2 visa |
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| Can someone provide a link or instructions on how I can find this information directly from the source? |
As prairieboy points out
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| Ministry of Education and Immigration are different government agencies. |
So, the people who approve our work documents and the people who let us into the country have different perspectives on this issue...thus allowing for all kinds of loop holes and ambiguity. |
Actually, the ministry of immigration controls who may have an E2 (teacher of foreign languages) for each language.
The MINISTRY of education (federal) can make recommendations but the PROVINCIAL offices of education (POE) control who they will each individually accept (of the choices offered by immigration). It is a provincial matter and NOT the within purview of the federal government (other than immigration) when it comes to selecting candidates.
There are 8 provinces (do), 1 special autonomous province (teukbyeol jachido), 6 metropolitan cities (gwangyeoksi), and 1 special city (teukbyeolsi) and each has it's own Office Of Education that is responsible for that region/area. |
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HydePark
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Ahh! Thanks for the clarification on that... |
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