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[ddeubel]

I think you're wrong. People are people, and the thing is if an Israeli dies because of a suicide bomb, it's just as abominable as a Palestinian getting shelled by an Israeli rocket. That's a moral position. Not,Arabs getting killed isn't as bad as Israelis getting killed, because their media are more hate filled. In the same way it's just as bad as someone to incite hatred on an Arab TV, or on a Discussion Forum. It's a moral position to hold yourself to the same standards you hold your enemy.

It always astounds me how people want to oppose an evil, by doing the same thing. If you tell people to hate Jews, I'm going to tell people to hate Arabs. What are you blind?
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Very well and adroitly (straight as the French would say) stated. I am glad you said it so well and called him to task. Exactly his and others problem.

The solution to many posters here is to just do the same back but BIGGER. As if that is any solution .......... I want to say it is probably from watching too many wrestling matches or partaking in too much Xbox activity. But this is too simplistic and the real answer is that those who say such rockem sockem things, policy, agendas -- JUST DONT CARE A BUTTS A S S BUT FOR THEMSELVES AND ALL IS ABOUT POMPOSITY AND BLOOD THUMPING EGO AND EJACULATION. The same who masturbate endlessly and then parade on about their moral purity.

Okay, end of rant. what I meant to say was -- well stated and reflected upon....

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[sundubuman]

I think you're wrong. People are people, and the thing is if an Israeli dies because of a suicide bomb, it's just as abominable as a Palestinian getting shelled by an Israeli rocket. That's a moral position.
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No, that's a moral equivalency position.

One is pure premediated murder of civilians, and the other is an accident.

Moreover, the terrorists who hide behind children and civilians carry more blame for the death of their civilians than do the Israelis.

[R. S. Refugee]

[bucheon bum]

[igotthisguitar]

Israel is doing its BEST to draw the rest of the world into an ugly "the gloves are off" middle-east bloodbath.

Good thing it has the US to blindly do its bidding

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[igotthisguitar]

Poll: Majority Wants Israel's Olmert To "Quit"

Friday, August 25, 2006; Posted: 10:49 a.m. EDT (14:49 GMT)

JERUSALEM (Reuters) -- Sixty-three percent of Israelis want Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to resign in a sharp public rebuke over his handling of the war in Lebanon against Hezbollah, a newspaper poll showed on Friday.

Many Israelis view a U.N.-brokered cease-fire backed by Olmert as a failure for Israel because Hezbollah's leadership was left standing and the two Israeli soldiers, whose capture by Hezbollah on July 12 sparked the war, were still in captivity

At least 1,110 people in Lebanon and 157 Israelis were killed in the conflict.

The Yedioth Aronoth poll showed for the first time a majority favored Olmert stepping down. Several surveys suggested a big jump in support for the right-wing Likud party and its leader Benjamin Netanyahu after the 34-day war.

A poll in the Maariv newspaper showed that only 14 percent of Israelis would vote for Olmert if new elections were held, while 26 percent would back Netanyahu, a former prime minister.

The Yedioth poll said 45 percent would support Netanyahu.

Olmert, a career politician who lacks the combat credentials of many of his predecessors, has seen his public standing plummet for failing to crush Hezbollah, which rained some 4,000 rockets on northern Israel during the fighting.

"Olmert go home," read one sign at a protest by a few hundred army reservists and family members at the grave of former Prime Minister Golda Meir on Friday.

The protesters urged Olmert to follow the lead set by Meir, who was forced to resign after the 1973 Middle East war in which Egypt and Syria scored initial successes that caused heavy Israeli casualties.

Yedioth, Israel's biggest circulation daily, called Friday's poll results a political "earthquake" for Olmert, whose centrist Kadima party crushed Netanyahu's Likud in general elections in March. A similar poll published a week ago showed 41 percent wanted Olmert to resign.

Twenty-two percent of Israelis in the poll deemed Netanyahu "most fit" to be prime minister, compared to 11 percent for Olmert.

Olmert also trailed ultranationalist Avigdor Lieberman with 18 percent and senior statesman Shimon Peres with 12 percent, according to Yedioth.

Kadima falters
Cameron Brown, of Israel's Herzliya Center, said Olmert's political troubles were compounded by a string of government scandals, including an investigation into whether the Israeli president coerced a female employee to have sex with him.

"These politicians are under fire from several different directions at the same time and I think Olmert is clearly having a rough time. The question is will this force him to step down," Brown said.

The Maariv poll showed that if elections were held today, Olmert's Kadima party would win just 14 seats in parliament, compared with the 29 it won at the last polls. Likud would win 24, compared with 12.

The left-leaning Labour party would win just nine seats.

In addition to calling for Olmert's resignation, 74 percent of Israelis in the Yedioth poll said Defense Minister Amir Peretz, the left-leaning Labour party leader, should step down. Fifty-four percent want army chief Dan Halutz to step down.

Olmert has put on hold for now his proposal for an Israeli pullout from parts of the occupied West Bank.

The proposal was the centerpiece of the government program that won him election in March. But resurgent violence in Gaza, which Israel evacuated last year, plus the Lebanon war appears to have dampened public enthusiasm for territorial withdrawals

The Maariv poll showed 73 percent of Israelis opposed future unilateral withdrawals.

Copyright 2006 Reuters

[W.T.Carl]

The Isrealis are upset about the way this conflict was handled, not the fact that it occured. Olmert blew the chance to really give Hezbollah a bloody nose by listening to one of his air generals who lead him to believe that air and artillery alone could do the job.

[Summer Wine]

Just a question for those in the know.

How arab are the palestinians, lebanese, syrian, jordanians?

I knew a lebanese who argued that he was phonecian. So are they really arab from arabia or are they other?

[igotthisguitar]

[R. S. Refugee]

[bucheon bum]

Some lebanese- generally christian- like to distance themselves from other arabs. Claiming their phonecian is one way they do it.

[Grotto]