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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Everything I've read so far makes me side with des on this. He's a nutcase and the media and legal system are going gangbusters to make names for themselves ... and when it's all over they will blame it on someone else.
Me and des will both look dumb if DNA evidence comes to light, but if that were to happen it ought to have happened a long time ago, so the Boulder Colo cops will look even dumber than they already do ... or I should say, dumber than they have for the past 10 years.
Fortunately, I haven't noticed many here in Asia taking an interest in this yet. Hope that remains the case, as nothing good can come of it for most of us. |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Bobster!
We won't look stupid if he did do it, however unlikely that is.
As I said in my first post on this topic. the arrest of Karr occurred the same day as the false alarm at the Port of Seattle, and the false alarm on that flight with the claustrophobic woman.
Now they have aborted a flight between Amsterdam and the U.S. because people were handling cell phones and unfastening their seat belts when they shouldn't have been. Not only that, I read they were Asian. We all know that this is normal Korean behavior on a flight! (I was on a flight from Bangkok the other day, and Korean children were running around as the plane landed, and every Korean was on his or her feet at the plane taxied!)
Now, of course, it turns out the situation on the airliner wasn't terrorism. I am sooooo shocked!
The twenty-four hour news stations are screaming for something to report, and the NTSA (it was NTSA marshalls on the flights that were diverted that diverted them) is just overly reactive, and maybe somewhat justifiably so.
The hysteria is just too much. I am so very glad that I am not Arab or "Asian" (this is what some of the media is using now instead of Arab or Muslim). And being a white man in Asia is not going to get any easier.
Hysteria, hype and fearmongering- it keeps the news business going and the politicians in office. Expect a lot more of it. |
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Horangi Munshin
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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The TV news this morning had a piece starting with the JonBenet guy. It switched to people talking about English teachers, then that ktfra site. My wife said daves got a look in too. I didn't like the look of that!
What will be cooked up next? |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I tend to agree with Bobster, this guy didn't do it. He is a certified wacko and a sex offender, but he didn't kill Jon Benet Ramsey. He's just out for the attention it brings him. That's ok, hopefully he'll probably end up in a mental institution for the rest of his life. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever happened to due process, innocent till proven guilty and all that palaver? The guy may be a nut, a nonce and a bit of a wierdo to boot, but that should not prejudice his trial. IMHO, speculation on the case by the likes of Larry King et al is the worst kind of public nuisance in these circumstances. Let him have his day in court and lets all stop playing CSI or Miss Marpel., |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Whatever happened to due process, innocent till proven guilty and all that palaver? The guy may be a nut, a nonce and a bit of a wierdo to boot, but that should not prejudice his trial. IMHO, speculation on the case by the likes of Larry King et al is the worst kind of public nuisance in these circumstances. Let him have his day in court and lets all stop playing CSI or Miss Marpel., |
Where's the fun in that? |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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I don't like bolding the "important" parts, but this is rich. Me thinks he's not getting called as an alibi witness.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060825/ap_on_re_us/jonbenet_ramsey
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BOULDER, Colo. - John Mark Karr's brother insisted Friday that Karr did not kill JonBenet Ramsey. "Absolutely not. Emphatically. Without a doubt," Nate Karr said in a television interview.
Karr told ABC's "Good Morning America" he was certain his brother spent Christmas 1996, when JonBenet was slain, with his family.
"Well I can say almost without question that from the time that John had children he has never missed a Christmas with his family, and that's any Christmas," said Karr, who appeared on the show with his father, Wexford Karr.
"If he was away from his family during Christmas it would have been a family scandal," Nate Karr said.
The brother said he was uncertain where the family spent the holiday when the 6-year-old child beauty queen was slain in her Boulder, Colo., home.
"To the best of our recollection, he was either with us in Atlanta or with (his ex-wife) Lara," Nate Karr said. "It's not as easy as you might think to remember 10 years ago."
Addressing his brother, Nate Karr said: "We love you and we support you 100 percent. ... Help's on the way."
John Mark Karr, meanwhile, spent his first night in an 8-by-10-foot jail cell in Colorado, away from other inmates for his own safety.
Nine days after his arrest in Thailand, the 41-year-old former schoolteacher now awaits a court appearance that could come as early as next week.
Karr arrived in Colorado Thursday, flying in from Los Angeles on a state police plane to face charges in a homicide case prosecutors acknowledged is in its infancy.
Formal charges were pending and the date of Karr's first court appearance could be announced Friday, the district attorney's office said.
His first few hours at the jail were to include physical and mental evaluations, and he was isolated from the other 480 inmates, Boulder County Sheriff Joe Pelle said.
"Anybody that's in jail in our population that faces these kinds of charges, charges against children, faces some danger," Pelle said.
Questions about Karr's involvement in the case have arisen since he told reporters following his arrest in Thailand that he was with JonBenet at the time of her death but that it was an accident.
Boulder County prosecutors have refused to detail any evidence they might have, but in a court filing this week said investigators didn't learn of Karr's name until Aug. 11, five days before his arrest. They said he was arrested in part because they feared he might get tipped off and vanish.
The court filing conflicts with the Sonoma County, Calif., sheriff, who said his office alerted Boulder authorities about Karr in 2001 after he was arrested on child pornography charges. The sheriff and Boulder prosecutors declined to comment on the apparent discrepancy.
Karr has professed love for JonBenet in e-mails with a Colorado professor, and told a California woman he believes the girl was tortured before she was strangled.
Sonoma County sheriff's Lt. Dave Edmonds said Karr expressed an "apparent fascination" with 1993 murder victim Polly Klaas and JonBenet, and "presented ideas about what the murderers of Polly Klaas and JonBenet Ramsey must have thought and felt."
But there was no confession, Edmonds said, or anything else to suggest Karr played a role in JonBenet's slaying.
The Boulder arrest warrant and supporting affidavit remain sealed and the district attorney is fighting media requests to open them. Prosecutors said in the court filing Wednesday the affidavit contains evidence never before disclosed publicly.
Former Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman speculated that investigators may already have DNA evidence that they believe links Karr to JonBenet's death.
He said prosecutors may have obtained and tested DNA from a letter Karr reportedly sent through the mail, and that may have persuaded Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy to send an investigator to Thailand to surreptitiously collect more samples.
Nate Karr told ABC his brother may have become obsessed with the case because he wanted to write a book about it. Because he lost the ability to see his sons and wife five years ago, "maybe he felt lost," the brother said. "And maybe that was the only reality he had left."
After JonBenet's father, John Ramsey, found her body in the family's basement on Dec. 26, 1996, police collected DNA from blood spots in her underwear and from under her fingernails.
Investigators have said some of the DNA was too degraded to use as evidence, but some was of sufficient quality to submit to the FBI in 2003. The sample did not match any of the 1.5 million samples in the agency's database, according to the Ramsey family attorney.
Other evidence includes a ransom note, a mysterious boot print found outside the house, marks on JonBenet's body that some say could have been made by a stun gun; and signs that someone may have entered the house through a basement window.
Dozens of attorneys have come forward offering to represent Karr. The county public defenders' office has asked to meet with Karr, the sheriff said. It was not known whether such a meeting had taken place Thursday.
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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| Whatever happened to due process, innocent till proven guilty and all that palaver? The guy may be a nut, a nonce and a bit of a wierdo to boot, but that should not prejudice his trial. IMHO, speculation on the case by the likes of Larry King et al is the worst kind of public nuisance in these circumstances. Let him have his day in court and lets all stop playing CSI or Miss Marpel., |
Where's the fun in that? |
Yeah, more fool me, infotainment trumps the pillars of liberal society any day of the week. Give me convenience or give me death! |
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Samantha
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Jinan-dong Hwaseong
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the latest----
Lawyer: No charges for JonBenet suspect
AP - 18 minutes ago
BOULDER, Colo. - Prosecutors decided not to charge John Mark Karr in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, his lawyers said Monday after a TV station reported that the schoolteacher's DNA failed to match genetic material on the 6-year-old girl's body. "The warrant on Mr. Karr has been dropped by the district attorney," public defender Seth Temin said outside the jail. "They are not proceeding with the case."
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/US/JonBenet_Ramsey_Murder |
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FlagWaver
Joined: 12 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| He got a free ride home! |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| sick cheapskate creep, not a sick muderous creep. |
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Samantha
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Jinan-dong Hwaseong
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| FlagWaver wrote: |
| He got a free ride home! |
But how much will the people of Colorado and the US have to pay for it. Also what are the costs to the American (and other nationalities) teachers overseas going to have to pay for the sh*t he spouted and pulled. That's what worries me.
I remember the crap that went on in Korea in 2002 when the US military convoy ran over the two teenage girls and killed them. In the town I lived in there was a display of everything in the center of town where I was taking my 2nd graders on a field trip. I had to leave the kids with my partner teacher because of the hostility the protestors were directing at me. I hope similar situations don't happen from this idiots actions. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Colorado CSI  time for another t.v. show
Surely he could be charged with hampering an investigation, obstruction of justice or some other charge having to do with lying to the police. And didn't someone on the boards here mention that he has some warrants outstanding in the U.S. regarding child pornography. Or was all that just b.s.?
Maybe he'll be back in Seoul by the new year. |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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He was re-arrested and being transported to Sonoma county to face porn charges.
Either way, he's a kid molester. He wouldn't have been extradited back to the USA unless his emails contained some kind of sick crap.
He needs to be someones biatch in the joint. This is his true calling. |
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The Cube
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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