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[mindmetoo]

The popular media kind of picked up on this story but then dropped it pretty quickly because an American Idol judge started dressing his dog in cute little shoes or something:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12402157/

The full skinny:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramids

It's kind of funny that this guy is looking at some hills, deciding they're pyramids, digging around this ancient earth, finding some artifacts, and deciding they're proof there's a whole pyramid under there and it was probably built by the people of Atlantis or something.

It's no surprise people building things on top of hills. Forts, look out towers, summer homes. A bunch of untrained pseudo-scientists are now digging up archaeologically interesting things, not documenting them, possibly damaging them, in some mad belief Bosnia once supported a culture that not only built pyramids but built pyramids more massive than the one found in Egypt. It takes a lot of cultural infrastructure to build those things. That there's never been any evidence of the massive infrastructure needed to build pyramids in ancient Bosnian history does not seem to bother these people.

Oi.

[captain kirk]

Did you look at the satellite images? They show large, distinct pyramid shapes.

If you search for the Okinawa Undersea Ruins they are believed to be from before the glacial thaw (last ice age, 12,000 years ago). Same sort of mega stone architecture.

The Bosnian pyramids are said to be from the same period....

[mindmetoo]

[captain kirk]

True, but you're being cautious. The thrilling edge of the Okinawa undersea ruins is that they must have been made when the sea levels were high enough to surface that coastal land. And that was 12,000 years ago. Nobody in Japan at that time was constructing such huge, stone buildings. Because they're underwater and were just located a few years ago (like the Bosnian pyramids were located, officially, just recently) and because governments have a limited archaeology budget (especially expensive underwater digs in the case of Okinawa, even if it's powerful Japan....)....

Yes, I think it's flakey, too. But the fact is they're under the sea around Okinawa and the only explanation is there's no explanation. Japan has an early, very early, emergence of pottery. That might have been inspired by the leftovers from that megalithic culture the remains of which are under the sea, who knows? Passed on by oral tradition, the pottery making method from those long gone forefathers....

There's a leap. How could there be a pyramid building culture in Bosnia and how could we not know about it. If you go muck around on the net about that sort of thing there are pyramids spotted underneath jungle growth at places in South America. Similiar to the Bosnian ones in size.


Of course I'm not saying I believe spacemen came, and with their laser cutting tools, helped create a megalithic stone building (massive in scale) culture where there is no supporting surrounding evidence in the usual, recorded discoveries.


But something that old, 12,000 years, on land is going to be covered by a
lot of dirt. A pyramid sticks up and, with its slanted sides, shrugs off overpile over the years. So there they are. They are dated to that time. What can you say to detract from the possibility, when the stone facing is there? There's a leap that needs a stretch, a reach, to catch up with. There may be associated artifacts but they, on the flat (and not on the angled pyramid sides which shrug off overpile over the years, centuries, ten millenia) are probably deep down, not yet found. In the case of the Maya, etc, they found the pyramids and artifacts/associated buildings, true. But that wasn't as far back as the 10,000 years ago dating on the Bosnian pyramids.

Archaeology is still finding things and putting them into perspective, flexible frameworks. Something out of whack needs time to settle into the conservative niches built up. Remains from the Bosnian pyramid culture could have been lost in all that time or found and not understood. Meanwhile the pyramids are right there. The locals knew about them (and underground tunnels linking pyramids) but it took satellite pictures to show the world.

It could be you'll be long dead and gone, Mindmetoo, by the time historians put the Bosnian and Okinawan pyramid building puzzle together....

[Boodleheimer]

hoax

[captain kirk]

Mr Whitehead. Strap on your scuba gear and head over to Okinawa then burp 'hoax'. Somebody built those and the Bosnian pyramids. It's a bit more complicated than tromping down crops to fake crop circles....oh yeah, somebody built a pyramid out of huge slabs of stone and deliberately sunk it, and other bits of monumental stone architecture, off the coast of Okinawa to be cute.

[Guri Guy]

I went to Okinawa for my summer vacation. I was on an island that was not too far from these "pyramids". On the plane ride home I was talking to a scuba diving enthusiaist that had gone there for his vacation. He seemed to think they were fascinating but figured they were natural rock formations. Who knows though? The possibility is intriguing.

[captain kirk]

There are the same sort of things off Bermuda. That stuff gets trodden down as 'Atlantis'. But around the coasts of the world, in certain places, are megalithic (big stone) bits of architecture which were land when the sea levels were lower. About 10,000 years ago. Then the ice age glaciers melted, flooding the seas....

[captain kirk]

links to info from various sources re; the 'Okinawan undersea ruins'

http://www.zmag.org/Japanwatch/9805-ziggurat.html

http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue13/ar13japanunder.html

Rather funky 'info' re Okinawa site and others (Pengu, off coast of Taiwan, and Bimini, off coast of Bermuda)

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1678

[re:cursive]

This kind of stuff is a bit of an ongoing passion of mine. There are a lot of interesting theories, discoveries and implications. Pyramids are an inherently genius way of storing symbol based knowledge for long periods of time.

I'll be interested to hear what the geometry, angles and alignments of these Bosnian structures are when they are undoubtedly analysed further. The dates seem like it could possibly be another part of the 10,500 BC period (seemingly global), tuned to precession and solstice alignments.

It seems quite obvious to me that mainstream archaeology is quite opposed to new (or very old) ideas.
We are the best ever. 3D/linear/terrestrial is the only way to go...yeah that's right

Oh yeah...I've been wanting to find out more about the Chinese pyramids for a while now....Anyone know anything?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_pyramids




Oh yeah...thought the reference to 2012 was amusing in the Bosnian pyramid wiki entry

[re:cursive]

[captain kirk]

The sphinx is said to be from 10,000 years ago. Older than the surrounding pyramids. It's also said to have had a different face, originally. The human face added later as a vanity press.

There's an awesome site/directory of archived articles with photos re; undersea ancient remains/sites/ruins worldwide among other articles at

http://www.reversespins.com/history.html

[re:cursive]

[captain kirk]

Here they say the water erosion about the softer stone used for the body of the sphinx had to occur 10 to 15,000 years ago at the melting of the glaciers...

http://www.egypt-tehuti.org/sphinx.html

unless slaves were contracted to haul buckets of water to wash it down enough to erode it by water method to be cute and confound historians....

Photo of undersea ruins off Okinawa...



If you actually want to go there OR see an extensive, no-nonsense set of info re; the ruins off Okinawa this DiveJapan site...

http://www.divejapan.com
Click, at this site, on the undersea ruins site...The coverage, photos (including satellite images) is awesome here.

And photo of prehistoric, ancient ruins at Sayhuaman, Peru which use huge stone blocks. Same zig-zag, diaganol, off-kilter angles...these are supposedly from the same time period as the Okinawan ruins.

[Boodleheimer]