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Violent Kids in Class
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
If you don't like punishment, here's a wacky idea that, well, I don't know, sometimes seems to work for me even though it's pretty far-fetched:

Talk to them sincerely about their behavior(get a translator if you need one) and show them that you are an adult role model who cares.


Can't agree more. Kids, even at 6 years old, have an idea of what's expected of them. They know what's acceptable behavior and what is not.

I'll add this: there's a feeling known in Korean as 정 (jeong), which, afaik, there's no word for in English. It was explained to me as a feeling a teacher has for their most beloved students. A kind of love, but not one that is similar to familial or fraternal love. This is what every single child wants, more than candy or stickers. They want to see that look in the teacher's eye.

You have to first be able to understand this feeling yourself. You can feel jeong for a little devil. He has feelings, and is just an innocent little child. As flotsam said, you just need to level with him. I teach my kids the word "behavior" straight off the bat (행동 in Korean). Then we have a talk about what is acceptable and what's not. If they cut up, I look at them sternly and remind them their behavior is unacceptable.

That's all it's taken for me. I transformed monster classes by utilizing these methods at my last hagwon. You gotta keep your cool, and have a true concern for your students, though.

Q.
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Violent Kids in Class Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:

The real world just doesn't work like that, and I wonder what the next generation will be like, always expecting a reward for "normal" (while some say good, I use the word normal here) behaviour???


Not to discount your concerns, but hasn't the same thing been voiced about almost every generation? Certainly about the baby boomers, Gen X, and Gen Y. I'm guessing the second generation Pilgrims had the same concerns leveled at them.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2 classroom rules for Korean kids and adults. Have fun and NO HITTING. I notice even my university students hit each other sometimes.
I write "No Hitting in big letters on the white board - so even the slow ones get it. But my best method of stopping Korean students from hitting each other is to say, "no hitting" while bowing and wai-ing (Thai prayer greeting) them.
This trick really shakes up Asians (of all ages) because they can not, repeat can not, disrepect a religious person. It works a treat. While I'm wai-ing the rest of the class are usually chanting, "no hitting in ....'s class" or yelling "manners".
Maybe it only works because I have 'monk hair.'
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:54 am    Post subject: Re: Violent Kids in Class Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
laogaiguk wrote:

The real world just doesn't work like that, and I wonder what the next generation will be like, always expecting a reward for "normal" (while some say good, I use the word normal here) behaviour???


Not to discount your concerns, but hasn't the same thing been voiced about almost every generation? Certainly about the baby boomers, Gen X, and Gen Y. I'm guessing the second generation Pilgrims had the same concerns leveled at them.


I was expecting that to be honest. I know, rock and roll will destroy society Wink But I do think this is a genuine concern. I don't think the Internet, Britany Spears or legalization of drugs is going to destroy society. But I am worried about underlying upbringing from childhood based on barely tested methods.
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