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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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 Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: Here we go again |
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I was told by my K-friend that in September a tv show called KBS-VJ will be airing an expose on foreign English teachers who seek out sex with korean women as sport. They will even interview some Korean "victims" who have had their hearts broken by these scoundrels.
Without seeing the show, I can tell you some Korean women they didnt interview: my ex girlfriend who stole a large sum of money from me; my buddies ex who, after a two year relationship, dumped him out of the blue a week before her marriage to a Korean guy; another friend who was drugged by a Korean girl in Itaewon and had his wallet stolen; that fellow solo traveller I met in Thailand (Korean girl) who after an interesting two hour conversation, completely ignored me once some Koreans sat near us in the cafe, the thousands of Korean girls who lead on western guys just to leach English off of them.
They also probably wont be interviewing any of the millions of Korean guys who frequent room salons, the yellow house, 855, Miari, Tabang girls, or the countless love hotels all while their wives and girlfriends are at home. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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| Beej wrote: |
| I was told by my K-friend that in September a tv show called KBS-VJ will be airing an expose on foreign English teachers who seek out sex with korean women as sport. |
So sports are illegal now? |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
| I was told by my K-friend that in September a tv show called KBS-VJ will be airing an expose on foreign English teachers who seek out sex with korean women as sport. |
So sports are illegal now? |
When it involves possible defilement of the mighty Han race, or so it would seem in the eyes of many Korean journalists. Now an expose on the bareback sport-****ing antics of Korean men in SE Asia, that might be worth a look.
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indiercj
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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Without seeing the show, I can tell you some Korean women they didnt interview: my ex girlfriend who stole a large sum of money from me; my buddies ex who, after a two year relationship, dumped him out of the blue a week before her marriage to a Korean guy; another friend who was drugged by a Korean girl in Itaewon and had his wallet stolen; that fellow solo traveller I met in Thailand (Korean girl) who after an interesting two hour conversation, completely ignored me once some Koreans sat near us in the cafe, the thousands of Korean girls who lead on western guys just to leach English off of them.
They also probably wont be interviewing any of the millions of Korean guys who frequent room salons, the yellow house, 855, Miari, Tabang girls, or the countless love hotels all while their wives and girlfriends are at home. |
I am not too sure about the first group. But I guess the second part has been pretty much covered to death on daily basis. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
| I was told by my K-friend that in September a tv show called KBS-VJ will be airing an expose on foreign English teachers who seek out sex with korean women as sport. |
So sports are illegal now? |
When it involves possible defilement of the mighty Han race, or so it would seem in the eyes of many Korean journalists. Now an expose on the bareback sport-****ing antics of Korean men in SE Asia, that might be worth a look.
Mod Edit: Edited for language. |
Yes indeed. I have just about had it with this persecution of foreign males here. We need to fight back. Here is what I propose.
Make a flyer printed in Hanguel that says something along the lines of " As a foreigner I was unaware of the strict moral guidelines that korean society had in regards to sexual conduct, especially in the purity of its women. Thanks to various tv programs, Now i know. So i will be doing my part in reporting this misconduct by posting photos and video on my website of men who stray from this moral ideal."
Foreigners should hit the street with our digicams, taking pictures of men leaving room salons, *beep* houses, love hotels. After we take such photos, we should hand them this flyer. Also we can just put them in the windshields of cars at love hotels. We can bring these flyers to SE asia on our vacations and hand them to Korean men there. Any one bold enough can make an actual website.
But seriously, what really bothers me about all of this, is our lack of a voice in this matter as foreigners. The news can say whatever they want, and we are unable to tell the truth. Just for one day I wish I had my own tv station in Korea. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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Without seeing the show, I can tell you some Korean women they didnt interview: my ex girlfriend who stole a large sum of money from me; my buddies ex who, after a two year relationship, dumped him out of the blue a week before her marriage to a Korean guy; another friend who was drugged by a Korean girl in Itaewon and had his wallet stolen; that fellow solo traveller I met in Thailand (Korean girl) who after an interesting two hour conversation, completely ignored me once some Koreans sat near us in the cafe, the thousands of Korean girls who lead on western guys just to leach English off of them.
They also probably wont be interviewing any of the millions of Korean guys who frequent room salons, the yellow house, 855, Miari, Tabang girls, or the countless love hotels all while their wives and girlfriends are at home. |
I am not too sure about the first group. But I guess the second part has been pretty much covered to death on daily basis. |
If the sexual exploits of Korean men are covered in the news on a daily basis, then why come after foreign guys? Is there no irony or hypocrisy meter in Korean news rooms? |
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indiercj
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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| Beej wrote: |
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Without seeing the show, I can tell you some Korean women they didnt interview: my ex girlfriend who stole a large sum of money from me; my buddies ex who, after a two year relationship, dumped him out of the blue a week before her marriage to a Korean guy; another friend who was drugged by a Korean girl in Itaewon and had his wallet stolen; that fellow solo traveller I met in Thailand (Korean girl) who after an interesting two hour conversation, completely ignored me once some Koreans sat near us in the cafe, the thousands of Korean girls who lead on western guys just to leach English off of them.
They also probably wont be interviewing any of the millions of Korean guys who frequent room salons, the yellow house, 855, Miari, Tabang girls, or the countless love hotels all while their wives and girlfriends are at home. |
I am not too sure about the first group. But I guess the second part has been pretty much covered to death on daily basis. |
If the sexual exploits of Korean men are covered in the news on a daily basis, then why come after foreign guys? Is there no irony or hypocrisy meter in Korean news rooms? |
Why not?
I think you should be more specific about this report coming up next month before we get into this topic further. Because I don't believe KBS would report just because some foreign males frequented room saloons and such. 
It is only a guess but, it may well be about dating students or having mutiple sexual relations. Even for the "hogwon" teachers, Koreans tend to demand a higher than average moral standard of conduct. Koreans are no exception to this matter. Sexual misconducts by Korean teachers also make big news here. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Now an expose on the bareback sport-****ing antics of Korean men in SE Asia, that might be worth a look. |
What is special about that? Men from every continent go to SE Asia for ****ing.
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Now an expose on the bareback sport-****ing antics of Korean men in SE Asia, that might be worth a look. |
What is special about that? Men from every continent go to SE Asia for ****ing. |
Exactly my point, as a libertarian I seldom cares who ****s what (as long as the what is of legal age and concenting). It would just be following the lead of the Korean media and making a hoohaa about something that is deriguer and de jour.
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the land of 'do as I say, not as I do'.
Foreigners dating Koreans is a big deal (I should re-state 'foreigners dating Korean women is a big deal, but Korean guys pursuing and harrassing foreign women is acceptable'), yet its ok for Korean businessmen to import hundreds of Korean prostitutes into the US or issue over 5000 entertainment visas a year for Russians and Filipino prostitutes to come work in room salons. 
I really like 90% of all things Korea, but I truly LOATHE the hypocrisy of the window-dressing they try to feed themselves in the media. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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| indiercj wrote: |
| Sexual misconducts by Korean teachers also make big news here. |
Really?
http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2006/08/the_phantom_men.html
The Phantom Menace
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My Korean co-teacher told me stories of the male teacher who, during night study hall, would force the girls he liked to come to the front of the classroom so he could feel them up, in full view of all the girls. He knew full well that he would never be reported, and he never was. I have a friend who right this very minute is planning to quit her job at her high school because of tensions that have come up from her complaining about male teachers on a school field trip bringing their female high school students into their motel rooms to do soju shots with them. When she complained that this was highly inappropriate, she was met with the anger and indignation of many of the teachers, who said that she "just didn't understand Korean culture."
It's no wonder so many Korean horror films take place in the vast darkness of high schools. And it's also no wonder so many sex comedies are made with young girls in high school being the sexual objects of fully-grown males. Because they are. |
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| I know for a fact that American teachers would look at the blurry line between teacher and student in Korea as dangerously unprofessional in many cases, and I have seen with my own eyes teachers stroking students of the opposite sex, have heard of internal sexual harassment scandals within schools that were covered up, and actually know of Korean teachers who have have had sexual relationships with their students. And don't even get me started on the several sexual scandals I have read in Korean newspapers over the years, such as the teachers who raped two middle school girls in a noraebang, or the sex ring run by teachers in a Korean university recently. If I were to use the same "cultural" argument and paint Korea with a single brush, who would find it easier to say has a more "immoral" school culture? Let's start by drawing clearer lines between teacher and student in general, which would make these lines harder to cross by anyone, whether Korean or not. The fact that it's OK for popular romantic comedies to portray teachers falling in love with students � no matter what the bullshit particulars are in a given plot � should set off alarm bells; when I watched about 10 minutes of 어린이 신부 in a TV store, I felt like throwing up, or at least throwing something at the screen. Insipid, immature, irritating stuff. Sorry, but I'll have to go out on a limb and say that, from my observations, many more Korean teachers and professors and hagwon instructors fuck their students than any foreigners. And I don't mean this in terms of raw numbers, but in proportion. |
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indiercj
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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I have a question.
Do Korean hogwon co-teachers date(the western way) as much as you do? |
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indiercj
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
| indiercj wrote: |
| Sexual misconducts by Korean teachers also make big news here. |
Really?
http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2006/08/the_phantom_men.html
The Phantom Menace
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My Korean co-teacher told me stories of the male teacher who, during night study hall, would force the girls he liked to come to the front of the classroom so he could feel them up, in full view of all the girls. He knew full well that he would never be reported, and he never was. I have a friend who right this very minute is planning to quit her job at her high school because of tensions that have come up from her complaining about male teachers on a school field trip bringing their female high school students into their motel rooms to do soju shots with them. When she complained that this was highly inappropriate, she was met with the anger and indignation of many of the teachers, who said that she "just didn't understand Korean culture."
It's no wonder so many Korean horror films take place in the vast darkness of high schools. And it's also no wonder so many sex comedies are made with young girls in high school being the sexual objects of fully-grown males. Because they are. |
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| I know for a fact that American teachers would look at the blurry line between teacher and student in Korea as dangerously unprofessional in many cases, and I have seen with my own eyes teachers stroking students of the opposite sex, have heard of internal sexual harassment scandals within schools that were covered up, and actually know of Korean teachers who have have had sexual relationships with their students. And don't even get me started on the several sexual scandals I have read in Korean newspapers over the years, such as the teachers who raped two middle school girls in a noraebang, or the sex ring run by teachers in a Korean university recently. If I were to use the same "cultural" argument and paint Korea with a single brush, who would find it easier to say has a more "immoral" school culture? Let's start by drawing clearer lines between teacher and student in general, which would make these lines harder to cross by anyone, whether Korean or not. The fact that it's OK for popular romantic comedies to portray teachers falling in love with students � no matter what the bullshit particulars are in a given plot � should set off alarm bells; when I watched about 10 minutes of 어린이 신부 in a TV store, I felt like throwing up, or at least throwing something at the screen. Insipid, immature, irritating stuff. Sorry, but I'll have to go out on a limb and say that, from my observations, many more Korean teachers and professors and hagwon instructors fuck their students than any foreigners. And I don't mean this in terms of raw numbers, but in proportion. |
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Come on. untold or covered-up stories either foreign teacher or Korean teachers involved don't count.
Felt like throwing something at that movie hein? Well guess what. We all felt that way. The movie itself was aimed to teenage female Kwon Sang Woo fans. So.. it doesn't mean much. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| indiercj wrote: |
I have a question.
Do Korean hogwon co-teachers date(the western way) as much as you do? |
Possibly, but in Korea there is a culture of hiding relationships until marriage. |
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vox
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Location: Jeollabukdo
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Here we go again |
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I was told by my K-friend that in September a tv show called KBS-VJ will be airing an expose on foreign English teachers who seek out sex with korean women as sport.
Now an expose on the bareback sport-****ing antics of Korean men in SE Asia, that might be worth a look.
Mod Edit: Edited for language. |
Yes indeed. I have just about had it with this persecution of foreign males here. We need to fight back. Here is what I propose.
Make a flyer printed in Hanguel that says something along the lines of " As a foreigner I was unaware of the strict moral guidelines that korean society had in regards to sexual conduct, especially in the purity of its women. Thanks to various tv programs, Now i know. So i will be doing my part in reporting this misconduct by posting photos and video on my website of men who stray from this moral ideal."
Foreigners should hit the street with our digicams, taking pictures of men leaving room salons, *beep* houses, love hotels. After we take such photos, we should hand them this flyer. Also we can just put them in the windshields of cars at love hotels. We can bring these flyers to SE asia on our vacations and hand them to Korean men there. Any one bold enough can make an actual website.
But seriously, what really bothers me about all of this, is our lack of a voice in this matter as foreigners. The news can say whatever they want, and we are unable to tell the truth. Just for one day I wish I had my own tv station in Korea. |
Jesus Christ this is an excellent idea. I'm going to start taking pictures. I could easily work posting such a flyer on windshields and subway cars as part of my early Saturday morning walk. Where is this TV station? I'd want to do it in their neighborhood first. Does anybody know the address?
It would be easy enough to extend an e-invitation to westerners in Amsterdam, Bangkok, Manila, Phuket for photos of Korean men leaving brothels or that other notorious overseas habit of theirs, swarming women they hope will turn out to be Russian hookers.
Can you *imagine* how nuts this country would get if foreigners used Korean overseas techniques on Korean women? Foreign guys swarming individual K-girls incessantly asking how much how much and just assuming they're hookers? They'd lose their minds.
Now what would the text say? It would have to be pretty damning of Korean morality.
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