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Guri Guy
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Scuba diving enthusiasts are no more qualified to make an accurate statement like that than you or I, unless they happen to also be geologists or something?
People still say the erosion on the sphinx in Egypt and the surrounding walls carved out of the same slab were caused by wind erosion. Yeah right. |
I wasn't saying he was qualified but just that that was his observation. He said he talked to some Japanese archeologists as well and they weren't sure one way or the other either.
I am openminded about the subject and I find the subject exciting. I hope more money is put into the archeological field in general. We still have much to learn.  |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Scuba diving enthusiasts are no more qualified to make an accurate statement like that than you or I, unless they happen to also be geologists or something?
People still say the erosion on the sphinx in Egypt and the surrounding walls carved out of the same slab were caused by wind erosion. Yeah right. |
I wasn't saying he was qualified but just that that was his observation. He said he talked to some Japanese archeologists as well and they weren't sure one way or the other either.
I am openminded about the subject and I find the subject exciting. I hope more money is put into the archeological field in general. We still have much to learn. |
I dunno, if experts in archeology overwhelming are not impressed by these so-called pyramids, skepticism seems to be the watch word. I mean maybe they over looked something. |
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captain kirk
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Check out the DiveJapan site and its info on what they call a Monument (seems they've made it a National Monument). So many dive photos you can get an idea of what the diver Guri Guy met saw..Click on Yonaguni
Monument Underwater Ruins.. www.divejapan.com
10,000 years on the seabottom scrubbed by moving sand when storms stir up but still looking good.... |
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daskalos
Joined: 19 May 2006
Location: The Road to Ithaca
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone prepared to take this to Cydonia? |
Please explain Cydonia reference. Anything to do with ancient Kydonia (also spelled Cydonia), now the site of current day Chania, Crete? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone prepared to take this to Cydonia? |
Please explain Cydonia reference. Anything to do with ancient Kydonia (also spelled Cydonia), now the site of current day Chania, Crete? |
As in the face on Mars stuff. It's a region of Mars called cydonia. Hoagland has taken this "hrmm we're not geologists or archaeologists but these rocks sure do look like pyramids" stuff to a whole new level.
Hoagland: There's a face on Mars.
NASA: Well, its just a mesa and a product of light and shadow.
Hoagland: Then image it with the new Mars probe.
NASA: We will.
Hoagland: You won't because you're afraid!
NASA: Fine. The very first picture we'll image on Mars is the face. Science should be done by whoever pees his diaper the most. You convinced us.
NASA photos reveal the most unface like thing you've ever seen.
Hoagland: Clearly NASA dropped a nuclear bomb on the face to destroy all evidence.
Clearly.
There are loads of archaeologists, independent ego driven thinkers, who would love to make their name finding a new pyramid or a lost civilization. Many have. But we have to come back to the notion that if real experts are going "we just don't see all the OTHER stuff, like evidence there exists a whole pyramid building culture around ancient marvels, you got to take a step back and open up a big tasty can of reality check."
For example, Stonehenge and the Easter Island Faces the woo woo crowd likes to claim were built by UFOs or mysterious forces but there are quite obviously ancient quarries and other signs of the industry that went into creating these marvels.
If 18 oncologists are telling you baby oil won't cure your cancer and one doctor in the Philippines is saying the exact opposite, who are you going to spend your limited treatment dollars on?
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re:cursive
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Such a shame all that stuff up there on Mars doesn't look as good now as it used to.
I loved the linking between "the face" at Cydonia and the sphinx in Egypt...
Feline/human relic on Earth
Feline/proto human relic on Mars
...beautiful symbology.
Doesn't look like much now though. I find the differences in the pictures quite strange. Forgetting the original image, compare the 1998 image with the 2001 one. The features of the "mesa" seem to have changed a fair bit in 3 years...check out the ridge lines etc. |
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captain kirk
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| All the island's resources were used up making those sculptures (trees for levers and palm trucks for rollers) until there was no forest left; now there are no trees. Once the largest palm in the world grew there. . |
Exhausting ones available resources has usually been the cause of a civilisations demise. Ours will be no exception.
The face on mars is just a geological formation and nothing more.
The underwater ruins are real I think and there are many others around the world. Their credibility gets strained though by the gobbledygook of the "scientists" publicizing them. They hold your attention until they start talking about Aliens building them and great mystics being channelled to other planets etc etc....Please. |
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captain kirk
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Soul Forest
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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Just came across this thread. Very interesting stuff. I haven't had time to explore the various links yet.
I have stayed in Okinawa for about 8 months though -- through about 5 different trips there. It's an amazing place.
The place where the underwater formation is is nowhere near Japan. It's off the coast of an island called Yonaguni. This island is 125 km from the coast of Taiwan. Okinawa is a long island chain. The island of Yonaguni is very far from the main Okinawan island. It is easier to go back and forth from the main island of Okinawa to Japan than it is to go from Okinawa main island to its outer islands -- or so I've read in an Okinawa history book. The outer islands of Okinawa are much closer to China, Phillipines, and even closer to Korea than most of Japan. So, when considering any possible ancient civilization, my limited knowledge suggests that it's not connected to ancient Japanese culture per se.
More for humor than anything, I'm adding this picture of the "breast mountains" taken during my stay on Miyako island, in Okinawa. Can you the two little hills well-spaced from each other? The island is quite flat, so some people suggest ththese hills must have been manmade. They look like giant funeral mounds.
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re:cursive
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Exhausting ones available resources has usually been the cause of a civilisations demise. |
Mayan?
Inca? |
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captain kirk
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| More for humor than anything, I'm adding this picture of the "breast mountains" taken during my stay on Miyako island, in Okinawa. Can you the two little hills well-spaced from each other? The island is quite flat, so some people suggest ththese hills must have been manmade. They look like giant funeral mounds. |
Wow. I went to Miyakojima myself. I flew from Okinawa and stayed there for 3 days. Absolutely loved the place. Very beautiful with friendly people. I'd love to work there as an English teacher. I regret not having tried to find out if that was possible when I was there. 
I'll try and post some pictures later. |
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Julius
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| i really don't get this thread. I've searched everywhere on the net for info on the Bosian pyramids, but to no avail. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| i really don't get this thread. I've searched everywhere on the net for info on the Bosian pyramids, but to no avail. |
Doh. Title change is in order. |
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