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Homer
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 Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Part of it is indeed contacts however for the better jobs experience (referenced) and qualifications are required. Just having contacts won't lead you very far.
You want a higher wage and better condition but what do you have that warrants such demands besides your desire to make more money? |
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soviet_man
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am I expecting too much?
I don't mind working alot |
The answer is: get permission from your school to get a second job.
Lets say a typical hagwon in Seoul would pay 2.2 mil with a shift from 3-9pm Mon-Fri + free housing.
You could supplement that by working at a second school during the mornings (say 9-1 or something) plus Saturdays and collect a second paycheck. With no housing needed for your second job, you could easily ask for more, say 2.4 to 2.8 mil.
So it is quite possible to take over 4.6+ a month.
Ultimately it is not about qualifications or experience, any corpse with a pulse can teach ESL in Korea, it is about the VOLUME of work you can do.
You just have to be prepared to work 10 hours or more every day (many people do it). |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:08 am Post subject: |
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FYI soviet man...while VOLUME of WORK can mean you earn more with more work hours...better jobs pay more for fewer hours.
Those jobs are about qualifications my man...no way around that.
What would you rather have?
Two jobs..working 10 hours a day making 4+
One job working 4-5 hours a day making 3 + whatever else you can make with a few hours of extra work here and there?
Personally I much prefer option 2 but thats just me. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: |
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The best thing to do is to get experience or some kind of formal experience.
When I first got to Korea in 2000, my first job started out at 1.7 million won a month. Then they moved it up to 1.9 million.
Anyway, during that time, I took any job I could find in between to get experience- I didn't care much about how much I was getting as long as I was getting some kind of experience.
At my next job, the hours were long, but the pay and conditions (though no housing) was fantastic.
And my last job in Korea paid 2.4 million for only 16 hours of work per week.
Sometimes I had to have demonstration teaching, sometimes I had to prepare sample lesson plans, sometimes I was hired on the merit of my experience.
The point is, you might need to get experience before getting a good paying job. Or try to get some kind of formal certification to pad your resume with- there are alot of them online.
Also~~ being at the right place at the right time, knowing the right people could help also in Korea  |
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Yusef
Joined: 30 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: Re: Am I being unrealistic? |
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I only have one year of experience teaching in korea
it was at a very poorly run hagwon
I have no ESL certification
I did not major in education
I have done no post graduate work
I really want to make at least 2.6 million a month
and have housing, airfare, severence n all that good stuff too
i keep hearing people are out there makin good money
is it just the very qualified/experienced?
pretty much every job i come across is 1.9 to 2.2
i was making 1.9 last year and thought that was average until everyone i met looked at me like i was some poor sap and said "oh that isn't very much"
but now
i keep passin up jobs hoping more money is out there
but i can't seem to find it
am I expecting too much?
I don't mind working alot
but i don't want to truck all over korea doing privates n breaking the law
or be treated like crap from some hagwon owner who thinks he is kim jong il |
You say you were offered 2.5? But in your OP you said you cant find such work. So you turned down 2.5 because you were hoping to find 2.5? Sorry, you arent making any sense. |
listen you seem to be trying to catch me on a point or somthing
i'm not trying to have a debate
maybe you haven't been reading clearly
i didn't turn down the offer for 2.5
in fact this thread convinced me to accept it
in my original post i said i was hoping to find a job at AT LEAST 2.6 (this is more than 2.5)
this was just the number i had in my head before i started applying for jobs based on the idea of saving a set amount
i didn't say i had an offer for 2.5 in the original post because i figured everyone would just say "hey dumb@$$ 2.5 and 2.6 are for all intents and purposes the same thing so just take it"
i wanted to know specifically what people thought about the possibility of a teacher with my low qualifications being able to make 2.6
clearly people think it's not much of a possibility
so i have the heard from the opinions i wanted to
and am taking their advice to heart
thanks for your help |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| You should get at least 2.1-2.2. |
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Yusef
Joined: 30 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: |
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am I expecting too much?
I don't mind working alot |
The answer is: get permission from your school to get a second job.
Lets say a typical hagwon in Seoul would pay 2.2 mil with a shift from 3-9pm Mon-Fri + free housing.
You could supplement that by working at a second school during the mornings (say 9-1 or something) plus Saturdays and collect a second paycheck. With no housing needed for your second job, you could easily ask for more, say 2.4 to 2.8 mil.
So it is quite possible to take over 4.6+ a month.
Ultimately it is not about qualifications or experience, any corpse with a pulse can teach ESL in Korea, it is about the VOLUME of work you can do.
You just have to be prepared to work 10 hours or more every day (many people do it). |
ok that sounds like good advice
like i said i am perfectly happy to work a lot
but i was kind of under the impression that most schools will not allow you to take a second job?
i know you can't do it without permission, and i really don't want to do anything that would be breaking the law
do you recommend making it clear before they hire you that you are hoping to find a second job?
or waiting until you are already working?
another problem is that alot of these places seem to be asking for more than the six and four hour shifts you are pointing to
so i guess that is the key? finding a place that doesn't ask for a long work day?
i think thats a pretty good suggestion, i'm going to look into it
thanks |
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PRagic
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Marry a Korean, open your own study room, and rake it in. You'll work hard, but you'll make buckets of coin. |
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