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potblackettle

Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a though Wanja, next time, before you reply READ WHAT I WROTE!
""Dear potblackettle
I am a Korean teaching Korean in USA (or wherever) on a tourist visa.
Is this OK?
Is the answer different if I am caught by immigration?"
Very truly yours ..... "
If you actually read my response, you'd have noticed that I said it was wrong. I was addressing a broader point of "no one cares about the laws they should be sacrosanct....". My point is there are a lot of stupid laws and the laws aren't always right, which is what this person was saying.
Let's examine what I actually said:
"Hmmmmmm.....interesting responses........not one of you seem to care about the law.........or maybe you do care a little but want to protect the new teacher more. Shouldnt the law superceed everything else? Even if I am doing it to get revenge." op's comment
"While new guy is obviously breaking the law and aware of it... the above statement is just silly." I clearly state that, yes, the guy is not only breaking the law, but aware of it.
"You never break any laws? You've never gone over the speed limit? Smoked a j-bar? Bought beer underage? Jay-walked? And any number of other things?" I'm leading up to my overall point here... that there are stupid laws.
"I'm not necessarily saying these things are okay... but there are a lot of really stupid laws. And the law, in many cases, should NOT supercede anything else." Bammo! Point made! That "IN MANY CASES" (notice I didn't say this case) the law shouldn't supercede all other factors.
"Sorry, it's the libertarian in me coming out." Again, I'm a libertarian. I believe in maintaining just and reasonable laws (and again, the immigration law seems reasonable to me, because I can see a victim here). But I think it's ridiculous to say that the law should always supercede anything else. In my home state sodomy is illegal, group marriage is illegal, smoking pot is illegal, it's mandatory to where a seatbelt, it's illegal to park backwards in a parking space... these are stupid laws. These laws should not supercede anything. The first three all have to do with the PRIVATE acts of citizens. The rest are just an overly power-hungry government wanting to legislate everything. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Settle down at the back there .....
It's only the internet ....  |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Wangja- Have you spent anytime in Koreatown?
How many Koreans are actually there legally, especially in NYC?
If you go to LA- forget it!
I went there and started sputtering off in Korean and the store was emptied in less than a millisecond.
I asked the cashier why and she said some of the customers thought I was a CIS agent because my Korean was considered very good.
It's a tit-for-tat world~ if they want to start kicking out illegal teachers from Korea, the US and Canada reserves the right to kick out the illegal cornerstore owners, fingernail artists and messuses/prostitutes from their repsected territories too. |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Illegal workers are in every country....the U.S. is full of them. Common sense tells us...don't do it...but...some still try.
The trick is...don't get caught.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time! When you get caught...suck it up and don't complain like some cry baby. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| I'd tell the new teacher to go to immigration and report himself......immigration will not deport him if he makes the first move. Set the owner up for the fall. They'll have him return to school, teach and pop in suddenly. |
that would be the best way for him to get out of his situation/contract if he wants to. Are you sure immigration wouldn't penalise him in any way? |
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