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Jarome_Turner

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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: Foreigners� Spending Hits 9-Year Low |
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Didn't see this one here yet... thought I'd beat RR to the punch....
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200609/kt2006090417391711910.htm
Foreigners� Spending Hits 9-Year Low
By Lee Hyo-sik
Staff Reporter
Foreign travelers are stingy in Korea while Koreans are extravagant in overseas tours.
According to the Bank of Korea, spending by foreigners hit a 9-year low in Korea while Koreans spent a record high amount of money overseas this year.
The number of incoming foreign travelers stood at 2.96 million in the first half of the year, compared with 2.91 million a year earlier. By contrast, the number of overseas Korean travelers rose to 5.43 million in the first half of the year from 4.78 million in the previous year.
Non-resident foreigners are tightening the purse strings here due to a stronger won against the dollar and poor leisure and educational infrastructure. But South Korean's overseas spending has been increasing rapidly as more people head overseas for travel, medical and educational services.
The central bank said yesterday non-residents' spending in the country decreased 4 percent year-on-year to 1.9 trillion won ($2 billion) in the first half of the year, the lowest level in nine years. In the first six months of 1997, foreigners spent about 1.4 trillion won.
``The appreciation of the won has clearly discouraged foreigners from shopping and spending on other leisure activities here. But a bigger problem is that the domestic travel and educational sectors have not caught up with the global standards to satisfy foreign travelers,'' a BOK official said.
He said the government as well as various tourism industry should make efforts to upgrade the services infrastructure and create an environment in which foreigners can come and have fun in Korea.
On the other hand, an increasing number of South Koreans go abroad and spend a record amount of money on travel and education, widening the service account deficit and offsetting the surplus from exports.
Koreans spent a cumulative $7.7 trillion won in the first six months of the year, up 17.4 percent from a year before. The number of South Koreans that went abroad grew 10.2 percent in the second quarter from a year earlier to 2.7 million.
A ratio of households' overseas spending to their total consumption hit an all-time high of 4.3 percent in the first half, up 0.5 of a percentage point over a year ago, according to the central bank.
An average household spent some 430,000 won out of every 10 million won consumption in foreign countries.
The bank also said overseas credit card spending by South Koreans hit a record high of $1.19 billion in the second quarter due to a surge in the number of outbound travelers.
The card spending increased 31.6 percent from a year ago, and 14.1 percent from the first quarter. Per capita spending rose 9.6 percent to a record $684.
``The stronger won and the introduction of the five-day workweek system have spurred more Koreas to travel and study overseas. If Koreans continue to spend a large amount of hard-earned cash in other countries rather than here in the coming months, it could further aggravate the already-sluggish domestic consumption,'' the official said.
Overseas spending is expected to set a new high in the third quarter as the number of South Korean travelers overseas soared in August and will likely remain high during Chusok, or Korea's harvest holiday, next month. |
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ronnie

Joined: 04 Jun 2006 Location: Wisteria Lane
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have spending problems anywhere that i am....home or here. It's a disease. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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I saw that today. I love the slant they gave it- "koreans are generous in foreign countries but foreigners are stingy in korea".
maybe that'll deflect from the real issue: Korea is uncomfortable for foreigners and doesn't provide an environment in which non-Koreans can enjoy themselves. |
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Junior wrote: |
I saw that today. I love the slant they gave it- "koreans are generous in foreign countries but foreigners are stingy in korea".
maybe that'll deflect from the real issue: Korea is uncomfortable for foreigners and doesn't provide an environment in which non-Koreans can enjoy themselves. |
I just don't understand how they can't figure this one out. Hmm...tourism is at its lowest, foreign spending is at its lowest....maybe we should hire some foreigners to help design the tourist designations. *sigh* But no, they continue to plod along clueless.
It's like a conversation with some friends awhile back. They couldn't understand how I could find the nightlife in Korea boring. I pointed out that of all the things to do there's only about 5 that I can think of: drinking at a night club, drinking at a room salon, drinking at a pojang macha, drinking at a bar or drinking at home. Other than that, outside of Itaewon or Hongdae, there's no good live music, ethnic restaurants or even late night coffee shops. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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We're not stingy- there is nothing good for us to spend our money on in Korea.....and most teachers are there to SAVE (emphasis on the word SAVE) money. |
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ronnie

Joined: 04 Jun 2006 Location: Wisteria Lane
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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stumptown wrote: |
It's like a conversation with some friends awhile back. They couldn't understand how I could find the nightlife in Korea boring. I pointed out that of all the things to do there's only about 5 that I can think of: drinking at a night club, drinking at a room salon, drinking at a pojang macha, drinking at a bar or drinking at home. Other than that, outside of Itaewon or Hongdae, there's no good live music, ethnic restaurants or even late night coffee shops. |
It's true. There's not much to spend on here except for alcohol, musical instruments and electronics. Much of the touristy things outside of Seoul are made more difficult due to the language barrier. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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I dunno, the Koreans on vacation seem to spend a lot of money on korean owned tourist groups, hotels and resturants.
I would have spent more money in Korea if I could. I needed to replace my wardrobe this year, and I bought NOTHING in Korea. I've tried. But the clothes don't look nice on me and I find most of them ugly and poorly made. Throw in the terrible customer service (arggh a foreigner, tell her she's fat so she'll run away) and I'd rather do my shopping online. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans also don't know how to market things.
For example; You can't buy big size clothing anywhere outside of Itaewon in Seoul. Why not? I see a lot of heavy Koreans nowadays. Why not have at least one store in a popular area like Myeongdong?
Japan, is shockingly, but not surprisingly market savy. Last time I was in Tokyo, I bought two watches. I was almost floored by the surprise of the salesman reaching into a large binder to produce English language manuals for the two watches I had bought. I really didn't expect that. Wow! |
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Also, as was mentioned on another thread, it takes a couple of years of living here to find out where interesting things are. I could hardly be arsed to look at another damn temple or see one of the infiltration tunnels. Wow! A big hole in the ground. I can't even see people going to Jeju and having a good time, because there isn't anyone there (when I went) who can speak a damn bit of English. And, having said that, the service in a lot of restaurants is atrocious because they don't care about you since they have so many other tourists (99% Korean) flocking in in droves. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:11 am Post subject: |
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And as a result will it occur to Koreans to hire actual foreigners to help them with their marketing and then actually heed the foreigners' advice? No, of course not.
Here's an idea to start: at a restaurant, bring out the customers' drinks right away; don't wait to bring them out with food. That way you can sell more drinks, not only to foreigners, but perhaps also to Koreans. That way your thirsty customers will also be more eager to come to your restaurant. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: |
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crazylemongirl wrote: |
I dunno, the Koreans on vacation seem to spend a lot of money on korean owned tourist groups, hotels and resturants. |
Just like me. Most of the money I spend on booze outside the home in Korea goes straight into Gunter's & Al's pockets and from there, respectively, God hopes, to build a trophy estate on Australia's Gold Coast or a high-security, diamond-studded, pine-bough lean-to somewhere in Canada. (not sure about the latter)
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I would have spent more money in Korea if I could. I needed to replace my wardrobe this year, and I bought NOTHING in Korea. I've tried. But the clothes don't look nice on me and I find most of them ugly and poorly made. Throw in the terrible customer service (arggh a foreigner, tell her she's fat so she'll run away) and I'd rather do my shopping online. |
The Guru's wardrobe contains very few Made-in-Korea items. Plastic bathroom slippers that I almost never use, that's one of them. Some abtract-art man-panties in a tube that I've received as gifts. A few pairs of socks & neckties I bought on my own. That's about it.
It's not that I don't spent obscene sums in Korea over the course of a year, for I often do. It's just that all Korea ever gets out of it are the import duties and retail/distribution markups. Koreans are the middlemen of my world. |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: |
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crazylemongirl wrote: |
I dunno, the Koreans on vacation seem to spend a lot of money on korean owned tourist groups, hotels and resturants.
I would have spent more money in Korea if I could. I needed to replace my wardrobe this year, and I bought NOTHING in Korea. I've tried. But the clothes don't look nice on me and I find most of them ugly and poorly made. Throw in the terrible customer service (arggh a foreigner, tell her she's fat so she'll run away) and I'd rather do my shopping online. |
I also see the same thing....koreans in foreign countries doing business it seems with only korean businesses.
I have traveled extensively and seen it.
Besides...what is really worth buying in korea and bringing it back home besides perhaps electronic items.
I'd be willing to bet also that most of the travelers are korean men who are spending in bars, hookers, etc.
For example...go to Germany and you'll see foreigners buying and sending cars back home...do you see foreigners buying korean cars and sending them home? Switzerland...watches? Korea? |
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Jarome_Turner

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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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As the article mentions, I'm pretty sure the increase in Korean spending abroad is DIRECTLY linked to the increased percentage of students that are travelling overseas to study. I'm not sure of exact numbers, but I remember reading a while back that there has been some ridiculous increase in the percentage of those choosing to pursue education in other countries.
As for the decrease in foriegner spending here in Korea, I guess that's pretty self-explanitory. |
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stumptown
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:06 am Post subject: |
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hellofaniceguy wrote: |
crazylemongirl wrote: |
I dunno, the Koreans on vacation seem to spend a lot of money on korean owned tourist groups, hotels and resturants.
I would have spent more money in Korea if I could. I needed to replace my wardrobe this year, and I bought NOTHING in Korea. I've tried. But the clothes don't look nice on me and I find most of them ugly and poorly made. Throw in the terrible customer service (arggh a foreigner, tell her she's fat so she'll run away) and I'd rather do my shopping online. |
I also see the same thing....koreans in foreign countries doing business it seems with only korean businesses.
I have traveled extensively and seen it.
Besides...what is really worth buying in korea and bringing it back home besides perhaps electronic items.
I'd be willing to bet also that most of the travelers are korean men who are spending in bars, hookers, etc.
For example...go to Germany and you'll see foreigners buying and sending cars back home...do you see foreigners buying korean cars and sending them home? Switzerland...watches? Korea? |
Good point. Aside from the basic essentials (food, beer, some clothes, movies and beer) what is there to spend any money on? I don't know about other expat's countries, but electronics are a helluva lot cheaper back in the US than here. |
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keithinkorea

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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Relatively, people are likely to spend less if the won is strong. The won is very strong against the dollar and Korea is not a particularly cheap country by Asian standards. Factor in poor customer service in stores (some services are great here but they're not the sort of things that tourists use), mangled marketing, people trying to cheat tourists and you don't have any sort of "tourist hub" to speak of at all.
It is also a pretty daunting-foreigner unfriendly place too for most people to visit. My family had a great time when they were here, but they would have struggled without me helping them out a lot. |
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