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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Koreans and obesity Reply with quote

Dev made a point I hadn't thought of. Does anyone else find Koreans are getting fatter, even only in the year I have been here, and especially compared to China and Japan Wink
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Kiwi Paul



Joined: 29 Aug 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Koreans and obesity Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
Does anyone else find Koreans are getting fatter?


I haven't been here very long, but I see a lot of very chubby kids and not so many of the older generations. It definitely looks like Korea is (like most rich countries) getting fatter as the generations roll on.
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kermo



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd gladly swear that a good percentage of my students have gotten fatter just over the summer holidays. A surprising number of chubby girls on campus too.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
I'd gladly swear that a good percentage of my students have gotten fatter just over the summer holidays. A surprising number of chubby girls on campus too.


and just to hijack the thread for a minute.... Kermo... are you an EMO?
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Talbain



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: Cedar Park, TX

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As nations get richer, they get plumpier as well. There are goods and bads to having a wealthy economy, though most of the bads could be resolved if people would decide to take on more personal responbilities.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
kermo wrote:
I'd gladly swear that a good percentage of my students have gotten fatter just over the summer holidays. A surprising number of chubby girls on campus too.


and just to hijack the thread for a minute.... Kermo... are you an EMO?


No no. I hate hate hate emotional music-- ballads, emo rock, R&B... the works. I enjoy Kermit, though, and I think he looks cute in those glasses.
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kigolo1881



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been to Japan, China and Vietnam within the past 12 months and must say that being in Korea, i noticed alot of chubby kids. Granted most koreans are taller than the avg. asian, but especially the girls who have a somewhat smaller stature (middle schoolers and up) have unusually large calfs...i mean they are borderlining "kangles"......
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kigolo1881 wrote:
I've been to Japan, China and Vietnam within the past 12 months and must say that being in Korea, i noticed alot of chubby kids.

Same here (though I've not been to Vietnam). China? Well, people would say China's still poor, their diet less BigMac-ified, so no surprise you don't see the porkers there. But if the generally accepted theory that waistlines expand as nations get richer is correct, then the Japanese should have reached circus-freak calibre a generation ago and NOT be comparatively slimmer than Korean children in 2006. But indeed that's how things seem to be "shaping up".

I met with a supplier & installer of decking material today. They're newly opened and I wanted to see if they had anything I could use. The installation team was outside loading a truck. Youngish, 20somethings, very tan, and surprisingly plump. All of five of them. Looked like chubby Korean-American kids from ... Los Angeles? There was almost something Hispanic about their bodies & faces & sporty-gangsta attire. (sports jerseys, baseball caps backwards, sunglasses) Typically in this business one see rail-thin Korean-looking Koreans or rail-thin ethnic Korean Chinese. This gang of tubbies were something out of Central Casting, the part -- fat tan korean-speaking asian-american hiphop gang.
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People exaggerate a bit here I feel. Yes, you do see a few chubby Korean kids (hardly surprising as they stuff themselves with ice cream and candy and suh-neck - all of which very cheap, so I do not necessarily see a connection with wealth either) but it's hardly sweeping the nation. Korea still contains by far the most slim people of any society I've seen. I see chubby kids at school, but seriously, what percentage of the whole are they? I say less than 5% and in girls it's wildly uncommon.

I see a tenuous link between wealth and obesity these days. I see a clear link between poverty and obesity however, although don't know whether that applies to Korea. Definitely applies in the West though, dunnit? Mississippi is the fattest state and the poorest. The fattest areas of England are all poorer parts of northern England (such as Bradford, Hull, Sunderland) whilst the slimmest parts of England are all in the richest, most expensive districts of London.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea feeling the ravages of obesity
A foreign traveler taking a cursory look at Seoul's downtown streets may be startled to find so many slim women and men walking around. But that can be gravely misleading, given that more than 30% of the population over 20 years of age are considered obese in this country, long proud of healthful traditional dishes. As today's children eat more greasy foods and sugar-laden snacks, the percentage is projected to go up to as high as 50 percent within two decades.
by Sangho Chung, JoongAng Daily (August 27, 2006)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200608/27/200608272228272509900090109012.html

Overweight? Drop the soju, cut the pork
Last month, the Health Ministry said a survey conducted from April to June found that 32.4 percent of Korean adults were obese, 1.6 times as many as 10 years ago.
by Hwang Se-hee, JoongAng Daily (December 10, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200512/09/200512092123580279900091009101.html
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at Body Mass Index on nationmaster.com, Korea and Japan are tied for the skinniest people on earth at 3.2% (of countries measured) body fat. By contrast, USA, Mexico & UK are 1,2 and 3 respectively at 30%-23% body fat.

So much for the anecdotes on this thread--though even I would swear I have an unexpecteldy high numbers of chubby students.


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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
Looking at Body Mass Index on nationmaswter.com, Korea and Japan are tied for the skinniest people on earth at 3.2% (of countries measured) body fat. By contrast, USA, Mexico & UK are 1,2 and 3 respectively at 30%-23% body fat.


Going from my experiences only (traveling all around Korea and Japan, and I mean all around these places), that doesn't seem right. Also, where is Australia. They are damn fat too!
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
JeJuJitsu wrote:
Looking at Body Mass Index on nationmaswter.com, Korea and Japan are tied for the skinniest people on earth at 3.2% (of countries measured) body fat. By contrast, USA, Mexico & UK are 1,2 and 3 respectively at 30%-23% body fat.


Going from my experiences only (traveling all around Korea and Japan, and I mean all around these places), that doesn't seem right. Also, where is Australia. They are damn fat too!


Well, exactly. Your evidence is anecdotal. Australia is #6. Canada #11. Also, I am guessing that many of the poorer countries don't keep these stats, so the likes of Cambodia, Sudan, etc., aren't represented--though with less than 3.2% body fat is virtually impossible. Under 3%, you are lucky to be alive.


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eamo



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
People exaggerate a bit here I feel. Yes, you do see a few chubby Korean kids (hardly surprising as they stuff themselves with ice cream and candy and suh-neck - all of which very cheap, so I do not necessarily see a connection with wealth either) but it's hardly sweeping the nation. Korea still contains by far the most slim people of any society I've seen. I see chubby kids at school, but seriously, what percentage of the whole are they? I say less than 5% and in girls it's wildly uncommon.

I see a tenuous link between wealth and obesity these days. I see a clear link between poverty and obesity however, although don't know whether that applies to Korea. Definitely applies in the West though, dunnit? Mississippi is the fattest state and the poorest. The fattest areas of England are all poorer parts of northern England (such as Bradford, Hull, Sunderland) whilst the slimmest parts of England are all in the richest, most expensive districts of London.


I agree with Spinoza here. Koreans are still pretty damn skinny on average. Of course, the next 10 years will be interesting.

Fat kids in Korea usually indicates poor parenting where Mom and Dad allow Little Prince to eat what he likes to avoid a screaming session. That's something which is almost normal in the UK working class. "I don't like that!", is just about the most common phrase from a British 10 year old.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
laogaiguk wrote:
JeJuJitsu wrote:
Looking at Body Mass Index on nationmaswter.com, Korea and Japan are tied for the skinniest people on earth at 3.2% (of countries measured) body fat. By contrast, USA, Mexico & UK are 1,2 and 3 respectively at 30%-23% body fat.


Going from my experiences only (traveling all around Korea and Japan, and I mean all around these places), that doesn't seem right. Also, where is Australia. They are damn fat too!


Well, exactly. Your evidence is anecdotal. Australia is #6. Canada #11.


That's why I made sure to say from my experiences only. But again, from my experiences only Wink, I think the BMI is not very good. This discussion has happened a few times, without much headway either way, but I just don't see how the BMI is still used. I tend to think it's like scientists awhile back still believing for years the Earth was flat even when presented with proof. It had just been so ingrained it was hard to change.
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