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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: You think YOUR town is in the sticks? Huh, do ya? |
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I would henceforth like to lay down the gauntlet to any daves poster who believes they posses the title of undesirable backwater hicktown foreign inhabitant in Korea....
Here are my stats first:
Location: RURAL Kangwondo, 3 hours from Seoul, 1.75 hours from Kangneung, 2 hours from wonju, 40 minutes from Taebeak (bear in mind these times are by by CAR only, bus can take longer and be exceptionally more inconvenient)
Number of stoplights: 2
Number of Internet Cafes: 3 (Interestingly enough Internet Cafes are outnumbered by motels and massage parlors, considering that this is a casino town)
Number of English Institutes: 0
Number of other foreign public school teachers with a 45minute radius: 1 (although another arrives this week)
Typical middle school class size: 15-20 students
Housing: Apartment complex by the side of jagged highway constantly undergoing construction, four kilometers from the "town" area inhabited almost entirely by lower-class families and old people. Absolutely NOTHING within walking distance save a small fried chicken restaurant and two mom-and-pop stores. Also, stars perfectly are visible at night.
No international food available of any sort besides chinese fried rice.
Most the koreans I have met in Seoul whom have not grown up in Kangwondo have never heard my town.
Yesterday, while standing in the entranceway of my apartment gazing at the old women spreading red peppers on the pavement to dry out I heard a cow for the first time.
So, any of you pansies willing to step up to the plate and accept my challenge? Start throwing out some numbers, wussies.. |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006 Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I remember when there was only one internet cafe in Seoul.
Count 'em- ONE!
It was in the alley near Kyobo book store. I had to ride the subway downtown twice a week to check my E-mail.
Then, I lived in Miho village between Jochiwon and Chungju- no internet cafes at all. I had to wait for my monthly or bi-weekly trips to Seoul to check my E-mail.
You have to be a special kind of person to make in the sticks here.
I came from a country town and it took this last experience to know that I truly hate them. |
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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Benicio wrote: |
You have to be a special kind of person to make in the sticks here. |
Yes did I negelect to mention the fact that is royally sucks swollen monkey *beep* and I have to go to Seoul everyweekend just to keep frtom going under?
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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My town:
-Population: 13 million
-Metro population 20+ million
Can I play? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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jinju wrote: |
My town:
-Population: 13 million
-Metro population 20+ million
Can I play? |
No, let's go sit in the corner.
I just hope it's a really really big corner. |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Location: Kyungju
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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What about the casino?. Have you visited it yet. I have also heard there are a lot of used car dealerships in the town. Apparently the addicted will do anything to get another casino chip. |
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happeningthang

Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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You're in the GangwonLand Casino town???
Buck up little camper...you might miss out on a lot, but you live near the only pawn broker in Korea. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: |
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I am in Janghoweon, south of Icheon in Gyeonggido.
If you look out the window on the south side of the school, you see the main drag.
If you look out the window on the north side, you see acres of rice fields with mountains in the background.
I can't beat your statistics, but I still say that's a good illustration. |
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semphoon

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Where Nowon is
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:48 am Post subject: |
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There is one poster here who gets days off in his contract to harvest. Thought that was cool.
I live in a developed area but I have never seen another foreigner here in 11 months. Thats the best I can do. I only live 20 minutes away from Bupyeong but in a poor area. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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My local village (about one km down the road) has one traffic light. The view from my front door is looking down on a mountain-surrounded valley of rice fields, a Buddist shrine across the road and tree-covered knolls full of graves. My back balcony looks onto a hillside forest of pine trees full of squirrels, pheasants and deer.
The boys in high school get a day off (twice a year) to help with planting and harvest. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: You think YOUR town is in the sticks? Huh, do ya? |
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adventureman wrote: |
I would henceforth like to lay down the gauntlet to any daves poster who believes they posses the title of undesirable backwater hicktown foreign inhabitant in Korea.... |
My place ain't soooo undesirable, unless one were forced to stay every weekend, which isn't the case, but I'll bite in terms of hicktown.
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Location: RURAL Kangwondo, 3 hours from Seoul, 1.75 hours from Kangneung, 2 hours from wonju, 40 minutes from Taebeak (bear in mind these times are by by CAR only, bus can take longer and be exceptionally more inconvenient) |
RURAL Gyeongsangnamdo, between Jiri national park and Namhae island, 4.5 hours from Seoul by comfy convenient express bus that goes from this small town directly up to the Big Smoke simply because this is the "largest" farming community for an hour in every direction (bus stops once before Seoul in a Jeolla city to fill up), this small town is a sort of, centre for farmers and retirement community; one hour from Jinju, two hours from Busan, again by frequent comfy bus.
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Number of stoplights: 2 |
1... okay it depends how you define it. One that works, one that doesn't work and two on the secondary highway just outside of town. So, either 1,2, or 4.
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Number of Internet Cafes: 3 |
3 here too.
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Number of English Institutes: 0 |
Really? wow. There are two here.
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Number of other foreign... teachers with a 45minute radius: 1 (although another arrives this week) |
1.... within 60 minutes!... that I know of, and none more coming as far as I can tell
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Typical middle school class size: 15-20 students |
Dunno. I work in a hagwon, with 4-12 per class.
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Housing: Apartment complex by the side of jagged highway constantly undergoing construction, four kilometers from the "town" area |
Ouch! I've a large two-bedroom single-storey third of a triplex (built last year) overlooking the river valley, a ten minutes walk from "downtown".
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...stars perfectly are visible at night. |
Isn't it awesome? Laying in bed counting stars... as it outta be! "Counting sheep" must've been invented by cityfolk.
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No international food available of any sort besides chinese fried rice. |
Where? where? Haven't found a Chinese restaurant. Hard to believe I overlooked it, but I guess anything's possible. There is a pizza delivery joint, not bad stuff surprisingly, a franchise.
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Most the koreans I have met in Seoul whom have not grown up in Kangwondo have never heard my town. |
You got me there. Every Korean I have met in Seoul or Busan have heard of this place. This little town here has great historical significance, at the border between Jeolla and Gyeongsang provinces, where the japanese were pushed back in some very old war, and where some famous guy sat in a local temple on the mountain. And it's where one of the most famous Korean novels was written and written about, bringing in tour buses to see the traditionally preserved mini-village (in the gun, about fifteen minutes away from the "modern" town).
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Yesterday, while standing in the entranceway of my apartment gazing at the old women spreading red peppers on the pavement to dry out I heard a cow for the first time. |
My neighbour does the pepper spreadin' too. I only hear a cow on my way to "downtown", but a few roosters wake me up at dawn, which fortunately is when I get up anyways (the toughest part of living on Geoje before, in the heart of the rowdy nightlife district in Okpo, was the late-night loud drunks, and only fruit truck blowhorns to accompany the morning's beauty,... roosters and birdsong, various loud birdsong chirping are so much better).
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So, any of you pansies willing to step up to the plate and accept my challenge? Start throwing out some numbers, wussies.. |
Time we get down to the heart of the matter: population! You didn't mention it, maybe because like me you don't know it. I keep asking the locals but they don't know! I get estimates between 5,000 and 30,000, but some take into account the entire gun (many farmers live out of town in the region).
Adventureman, you have a casino in town. That ruins the rural character, makes your situation more like "I live in the desert, in Las Vegas."
Better luck next time.  |
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Golden Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Location: Left-of-Centre of the Universe
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'll throw in on this one:
Population: 4,000
Internet cafes: 0
Restaurants: 3 (Forget about "international" those are the Korean ones and one of those is a cafeteria style joint that's mostly for highway workers from what I can tell; cheap as dirt and edible, though.) I have to say that I'm pretty sure I'm missing a lot as it could be a restaurant and I wouldn't know being a newbie to Korea, but that's my count after half-a-year.
Traffic lights: 0 in the town. You'd have to go about three kilometers down the road to find one at a highway T-juntion and then there's none for miles after that.
English institutes: I've come to consider myself an institution of fortitude given the statistics above, but ain't no English intitutes to speak of unless you travel about 25 kilometers.
Who knows this town?: The radius is about thirty kilometers, after that, people probably won't know it and, even inside that radius, Koreans will ask me, "How can you live there?", incredulously.
Of course, I agree that there's a lot to be said for living in the country. Cities scare a caveman like me with their big fancy, under-the-Earth driving machines and I just can't take the air pollution. Every now and then, I go a little bonkers, but I think I'd go more bonkers from city life, so I just choose the lesser of two bonkers.
Oh ya, I forgot that distance to Seoul is a marker, too. I think I can go by bus in about two hours and ten minutes, however, to take a local bus to the bus station will add another forty-five minutes to travel twenty kilometers. Those local buses come four a day, oh joy!
How do I fair? |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Golden Lama wrote: |
Population: 4,000
Internet cafes: 0
Restaurants: 3 (Forget about "international" those are the Korean ones)
Traffic lights: 0
English institutes: ...no
Who knows this town?: The radius is about thirty kilometers |
You're a medalist for sure, and the frontrunner for the gold.
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...there's a lot to be said for living in the country. Cities scare a caveman like me with their big fancy, under-the-Earth driving machines and I just can't take the air pollution. Every now and then, I go a little bonkers, but I think I'd go more bonkers from city life, so I just choose the lesser of two bonkers. |
My gawd man! there's soooooo many options between Seoul and the other extreme, the place you are at now.
The happy medium is possible: there are plenty of 50,000-200,000 population communities with all the basic options of city living with many of the benefits of small town living. I should talk, I choosing a smaller place too, but one needs to have their limits. No Internet cafes? That is DARN small for this country! How do you do your shopping? It must be challenging just to find basics. |
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Golden Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Location: Left-of-Centre of the Universe
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, I'm in the lead? I feel like Sally Fields winning her second Oscar. I am chuffed.
Van, you are so right that there are happy mediums, but this is the lot that I was dealt, so I'm playing this hand. It's what happens to us EPIKers: sign with a recruiter, put your life in somebody else's hands.
I really can't do too much complaining - but it is work, so there'll always be something - so, on the whole, I can hack it. BTW, I'm long in the tooth for the ESL game, so culture shock isn't going to get the best of me, or at least I don't believe so.
Really, getting the basics isn't an issue and I get fed, etc alright as I manage to make my way around with pointing and smiling okay.
And, as I've got my own internet hook-up, I can do without the cafes.
If I win the gold, I'm going to Disney Land!
GL |
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happeningthang

Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Golden Lama wrote: |
Wow, I'm in the lead? I feel like Sally Fields winning her second Oscar. I am chuffed.
Van, you are so right that there are happy mediums, but this is the lot that I was dealt, so I'm playing this hand. It's what happens to us EPIKers: sign with a recruiter, put your life in somebody else's hands.
I really can't do too much complaining - but it is work, so there'll always be something - so, on the whole, I can hack it. BTW, I'm long in the tooth for the ESL game, so culture shock isn't going to get the best of me, or at least I don't believe so.
Really, getting the basics isn't an issue and I get fed, etc alright as I manage to make my way around with pointing and smiling okay.
And, as I've got my own internet hook-up, I can do without the cafes.
If I win the gold, I'm going to Disney Land!
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So where is, and what's the name of, this no horse town?? |
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