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[PRagic]

Most of the posts here are partially right IMHO. Yes, one of the reasons that she was ignoring you was most likely that she simply couldn't understand you. She didn't belong in the class in the first place. You could have handled the situation without giving her the heave ho, but you did. No problem...roll with it. When in Rome... Odds are she is more upset by the prospect of having ticked you off over the long term that she is over that one particular incident. Tick a Korean professor off like that, and you might as well drop the class; you're done.

On the other hand, the girl obviously needs a classroom - no, a life etiquite lesson. Would she have pulled those stunts in with a Korean professor? Nope. No way. Too rude. She felt she could tune you out because it is her AND the class against the foreigner, at least from where she sits. THAT'S the unfortunate state of affairs, but it does happen. If she comes back to class, pretend nothing happened. If she persists, take her to see you boss after class with you. Get her mom on the phone. She may be suffering from the ol' GongJu syndrome.

I've experienced it first hand. I've had students literally tune out, even though I'm doing all the ESL-sensative things to reign them back into the lesson. Then I'll bark out at them in Korean and they are riveted to the seat. Just an informal experiment or two, but you'd be amazed at the Pavlovian response you get.

[Sash]

Good for you! I think a uni student should be old enough to know how rude it is to paint nails and text message during class.

It makes me so mad when students test a teacher's limits...

[kimchi_pizza]

What? You never tested your boss or professor in any way? Who doesn't test their superior is some fashion? Specially on the first day with new students and a new teacher, everyone is naturally nervous and wants to make themselves known.

I still stand by what I said and even the title of this thread makes it sound like the OP is a braggart. I say he/she got tested and he/she failed.

I, too, have removed students from my class but not by yelling and screaming. I simply tell them to follow me to my administrator, ask what the problem is and have it all translated into Korean to make sure of no misunderstanding, and have the problem addressed. Continued problem is a phone call home. STILL a problem, and tried every means possible short of losing my cool I find'em a nice, quiet out-of-the-way spot for them to sit, school makes their easy money, I teach my class. Who knows? Kid finds the rest of the class learning and enjoying it, they may join after all. If they are also distracting my students and affecting their learning then I put my foot down, haul'em (not literally!) to the boss and refuse to allow him/her in my class again. Ceeeeeee'ya!

[PRagic]

Gotta agree with you there; never lose your cool. If you do have to kick someone out, do it with a grain of salt, almost as if the situation surprises and amuses you, too. 'Whao, can't believe I have to do this. Haha. No, seriously, out.' Then shrug it off, smile, and continue teaching.

I actaully heard of a teacher that chucked a chair across a room in frustration. Bad stuff.

[periwinkle]

I think I would've confiscated her polish and phone, but since she probably would've found something else to play with, I would've moved her closer, as someone menthioned. I don't think it was a bad thing she was kicked out- she's not wounded for life. I've seen teachers kick plenty of students of students out of class, starting when I was a kindergardner, and kicked out myself Anyway, I think it's the teacher's perogative- some teachers do it, some don't. Some don't want their patience tested, and the OP gave her several warnings.

It would never cross my mind to paint my nails in class- even in a big lecture class with over 100 students. She's clueless. Heh- once I tried to file my nails on a boring subway trip across Seoul and my husband told me to knock it off cuz it's disgusting and offensive to people- don't know if the whole population feels that way, but my husband was shocked I'd use an emery board in public

[Captain Corea]

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