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cdninkorea
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 Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: The New Multi-Ethnic Japan (Newsweek) |
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"This is the New Japan"
Immigrants are transforming a once insular society, and more of them are on their way.
By Christian Caryl and Akiko Kashiwagi
Newsweek International
Sept. 11, 2006 issue
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14640269/site/newsweek/ |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| In a few years, Korea will not be much unlike Japan now. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| In a few years, Korea will not be much unlike Japan now. |
According to the article, Japan still has a long way to go. But I hope you're right. Hey, maybe foreigners will, some day, be able to get Korea citizenship (yes, I know it's possible now, but I vaguely remember reading what it takes to do it, and they sure don't make it easy) |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't hold my breath about Korea doing this but I do hope that they make signifigant strides in that direction. Korea is still 99% Korean though. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| Well, it isn't any harder than getting an F5 visa, which involves getting and staying married. The F5 visa should be made available to expats who have been working legally in Korea for x number of years, regardless of whether they investors or not. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| Wow Londonstan, Tokyostan. I better visit now before it turns to crap. I'm sorry. Japan is true gem of the human experience. I hate to see it gone forever. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: |
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My last time.. in Tokyo's Roponggi. I was surprised how many Brazilians, Peruvians, Austrians, etc. whatever of people who grew up in Japan. It was all they'd ever known. Pretty damn cool.
Wasn't tons like western countries.. but at least it existed unlike Korea. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| dulouz wrote: |
| Wow Londonstan, Tokyostan. I better visit now before it turns to crap. I'm sorry. Japan is true gem of the human experience. I hate to see it gone forever. |
When you go to those places, people see you. That would give them the impression that the place is mixed and cosmopolitan. You should be at home shinin your trailer hitch, Cletus. Some coons been checkin out yer sister while you was away. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| I'm sorry Brazil is a crap hole. Making Japan more like Brazil is a crime against humanity. Brazil is multiracial and its an eyesore and and a heartsore. Save Japan, we need a few good places on earth. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| dulouz wrote: |
| I'm sorry Brazil is a crap hole. Making Japan more like Brazil is a crime against humanity. Brazil is multiracial and its an eyesore and and a heartsore. Save Japan, we need a few good places on earth. |
Thanks for the analysis, Herr Goebbels. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| dulouz wrote: |
| I'm sorry Brazil is a crap hole. Making Japan more like Brazil is a crime against humanity. Brazil is multiracial and its an eyesore and and a heartsore. Save Japan, we need a few good places on earth. |
But is it an eyesore and a heartsore because it's multi-ethnic? The way I see it you need to prove:
- that Brazil is an eyesore, heartache, and crap hole.
- that Japan isn't an eyesore, heartache, or crap hole.
- the cause and effect relationship that you believe exists between a country being an eyesore and multi-ethnic.
- that a country being an eyesore and heartache is an inevitable consequence of it being multi-ethnic (i.e. it cannot be 'tweaked')
- that Japan's non-eyesoreness, non-heartacheness, and non-crapholeness is a consequence of it being homogeneous (rather than two unrelated qualities)
None of these are self-evident. |
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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, Dolouz, say hi to your cousin...er...I mean wife for me.
Second of all, did any of you actually read the article? It doesn't exactly paint a bright, optimistic picture. Foreigners in Japan have a terribly difficult time and receive very little help. Many Japanese don't want foreigners to stay in Japan. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I_Am_Wrong wrote: |
| Foreigners in Japan have a terribly difficult time and receive very little help. Many Japanese don't want foreigners to stay in Japan. |
Korea is no different.
I think the west should allow in koreans and Japanese purely on a reciprocal basis.
They must be forced to see that immigration goes both ways. |
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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| I_Am_Wrong wrote: |
| Foreigners in Japan have a terribly difficult time and receive very little help. Many Japanese don't want foreigners to stay in Japan. |
Korea is no different.
I think the west should allow in koreans and Japanese purely on a reciprocal basis.
They must be forced to see that immigration goes both ways. |
Where are you from? I suppose, that if you say that, then it's logical for me to say that North American Aboriginals should be able to kick out other people in North America. The only people in North America or Australia or New Zealand that have any right to complain about immigration are aboriginals. |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| You know, last year Japan peaked. It became as big as it will ever be (if present trends continue, which they probably won't). |
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