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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject: What's the most lucrative Asian language to learn? |
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Any thoughts on this one?
Chinese character's seem to be the binding cultural/linguistic force in East Asia so I am focusing on them now and acquisition of Korean vocabulary through Hanja.
In the long term though as a potential longterm expat in East Asia which language, Japanese, Korean or Chinese, is most likely to help finance my future?
I am in Korea now but cannot deny that Japan has always intrigued me, I stayed their briefly and was very comfortable.
China is still a bit of a mystery but seems to be the root of all the things I like about East Asian culture.
I like Korea but the inability to teach private lessons has begun to wear me down. As have all the sneaky people that overcharge me because I'm a whitey. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: What's the most lucrative Asian language to learn? |
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chaz47 wrote: |
Any thoughts on this one?
Chinese character's seem to be the binding cultural/linguistic force in East Asia so I am focusing on them now and acquisition of Korean vocabulary through Hanja.
In the long term though as a potential longterm expat in East Asia which language, Japanese, Korean or Chinese, is most likely to help finance my future?
I am in Korea now but cannot deny that Japan has always intrigued me, I stayed their briefly and was very comfortable.
China is still a bit of a mystery but seems to be the root of all the things I like about East Asian culture.
I like Korea but the inability to teach private lessons has begun to wear me down. As have all the sneaky people that overcharge me because I'm a whitey. |
Privates: OK in China and Japan. Japan you can get absolute minimum 2000 yen per hour. China, absolute minimum is 100 yuan, but normal is atleast 150 to 200 if you are any good.
Sneaky people: China won't be any better, actually worse. Japan is probably the most honest nation in the world (maybe not the most, but very high).
Chinese would be the most lucrative one to learn.
If you are already learning Korean, Japanese won't be as hard as some say to pick up. The Kanji are more difficult though.
Chinese is more like English in thinking (though it obviously has a lot of differences too). |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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I would have to say Japanese. Although both other languages are also useful, the Japanese have the lowest level of English. The Chinese have some super-human ability to suddenly learn English when they want to. We all also know the desire to learn English here in Korea is crazy, so in 15 years, I think we will be pleasently suprised with what we see. The Japenese just don't seem to have that desire anymore and they are everywhere in business. I don't want to write more, but I think you get my point. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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If we're talking about how long it takes to learn a language, then Indonesian/Malaysian would be the most lucrative. You can pick them up like *that*. |
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chaz47

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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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mithridates wrote: |
If we're talking about how long it takes to learn a language, then Indonesian/Malaysian would be the most lucrative. You can pick them up like *that*. |
Why are they so easy to acquire?
What potential uses do they have? How will they lead to a relatively secure financial future? |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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chaz47 wrote: |
mithridates wrote: |
If we're talking about how long it takes to learn a language, then Indonesian/Malaysian would be the most lucrative. You can pick them up like *that*. |
Why are they so easy to acquire?
What potential uses do they have? How will they lead to a relatively secure financial future? |
I could be completely wrong with this, but take Chinese grammar (quite easy, with much fewer connecting words) our alphabet (used phonetically) and there you go. You can instantly read something with great pronunciation. If you use Malaysian, there are a lot of English loan words, while Indonesian uses Dutch. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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chaz47 wrote: |
mithridates wrote: |
If we're talking about how long it takes to learn a language, then Indonesian/Malaysian would be the most lucrative. You can pick them up like *that*. |
Why are they so easy to acquire?
What potential uses do they have? How will they lead to a relatively secure financial future? |
I don't think they're quite as useful as the others but Indonesian and Malaysian (almost the same language) are used in a lot of countries in the region including Singapore.
Easy - roman letters, no diacritics. Verbs don't conjugate by person, past tense not necessary unless you can't tell from the context whereupon you just add sudah (already).
Saya minum kopi - I drink coffee
Anda minum kopi - you drink coffee
Saya orang Korea - I'm Korean (I + person + Korea, note you don't even need the verb to be)
Saya minum kopi Anda - you drink/drank my coffee - to denote ownership just put a noun/pronoun after the other one.
Plural when necessary is formed by a simple doubling of the word - orang is person and orang orang is people.
Etc. It's pretty much just saying words one after another.
That's what I understand from taking a look at the language here and there. There are others on the board that speak it so they could attest to its use, but if we're looking at time spent vs. results, Indonesian/Malaysian is in there too.
Edit: I know nothing about a secure financial future. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Another one you could look at would be Vietnamese. The up and comer of SEA. Not going to be the easiest to learn but with the way their economy is going and how they are not just letting it boom uncontrollably, there could be some serious promise in that country. |
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kigolo1881

Joined: 30 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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it doesnt matter which language you are trying to learn and speak, there's always a way of securing a good job with any language depending on how you market yourself. Language is just a medium to your character, if you are the most unsocial/unsympathetic person and speak 5 languages, noone will get along with you.
Then again if you only speak 1 or 2 languages and yet have a very nice personality, you can land any decent job that you want, granted you connections!
I speak fluent english, german and vietnamese, yet i dont have connections to land a SUPER job, then again maybe i got a bad personality.hehe. |
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ronnie

Joined: 04 Jun 2006 Location: Wisteria Lane
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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I might be a little silly, but is there any doubt???
Mandarin would be the most lucrative Asian language to learn. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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i'm pretty good at chinese, which means i could read some things at the Tokyo airport and get the gist of things written in Kanji. same in Hanja. but do they use hanja? NOOOOOOO!!!! they have to use their own damn alphabet 99.9% of the time. man, that ticks me off. |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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KWhitehead wrote: |
i'm pretty good at chinese, which means i could read some things at the Tokyo airport and get the gist of things written in Kanji. same in Hanja. but do they use hanja? NOOOOOOO!!!! they have to use their own damn alphabet 99.9% of the time. man, that ticks me off. |
what do you mean? pinyin in China? hangeul in Korea? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I like Anakin's idea. Probably learning a slightly more obscure language would be pretty useful. There's a ton of people who know Chinese and Japanese already, so you'd just be joining the crowd.
Of the three main languages being discussed, Mandarin seems like it would be most useful to learn. |
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Boodleheimer

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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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chaz47 wrote: |
KWhitehead wrote: |
i'm pretty good at chinese, which means i could read some things at the Tokyo airport and get the gist of things written in Kanji. same in Hanja. but do they use hanja? NOOOOOOO!!!! they have to use their own damn alphabet 99.9% of the time. man, that ticks me off. |
what do you mean? pinyin in China? hangeul in Korea? |
i can read a lot of hanzi. BUT really only the simplified version. i only know a few dozen or so traditional hanzi characters. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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KWhitehead wrote: |
i'm pretty good at chinese, which means i could read some things at the Tokyo airport and get the gist of things written in Kanji. same in Hanja. but do they use hanja? NOOOOOOO!!!! they have to use their own damn alphabet 99.9% of the time. man, that ticks me off. |
Do you have any idea how useful that alphabet (actually a syllabary) is for people living there? The one that is more straight lines (katakana) is what all the borrowed words are written in. You learn all ~46 of them, and you can read a lot of things, importantly in restaurants and know exactly what it is. For example, in McDonalds, MI LU KU. Guess what that is? Though sometimes it's not, for example A-RU-BA-I-TU (maybe wrong there) or MA-RO-N (chestnut).  |
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