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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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 Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: Trustees called traitors for admitting men |
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Trustees called traitors for admitting men
POSTED: 7:21 p.m. EDT, September 9, 2006
LYNCHBURG, Virginia (AP) -- Amid boos and shouts of "traitors" Randolph-Macon Woman's College officials announced Saturday that men would be admitted to the 115-year-old institution starting in 2007.
In the eyes of the board of trustees, going coed could help stabilize the school's finances as interest in all-women schools wanes.
But when officials floated the idea last month, it drew a sharp response. Online petitions and campus protests decried the move, angry e-mail flooded in, one alumnae group even hired a lawyer to try to discourage the board by citing legal concerns.
Saturday morning, an agitated crowd of some 400 students, alumnae and their supporters greeted the board's announcement by drowning out trustees president Jolley Christman as she tried to explain.
"Today we begin to heal. We begin to write the next chapter in our history," Christman said, barely audible over the shouting.
Christman said the 25-2 vote followed more than two years of study. The board determined coeducation was the best way to preserve the school's mission of high academic standards for undergraduate students and said a co-educational version of Randolph-Macon would emphasize global honors programs.
Interim President Ginger Worden told the students and supporters, "Do not, I implore you, turn your back on this college," but many in the crowd swiftly turned their backs on her in response.
"I'm sad. I'm really sad," said Gabriella Medina, a freshman from Puerto Rico. "If we can't reverse this, I guess I'm going to transfer."
Before Saturday's vote, supporters of single-gender education gathered on campus, many wearing yellow T-shirts distributed by the students' Coalition to Preserve Women's Education. A red-brick campus wall was lined with bedsheets turned into banners, one reading: "115 Years of Women Can't Be Wrong."
College officials expected resistance but said the move was necessary. Enrollment this fall was about 700, down from a student body of almost 900 in the 1960s.
Worden said the school has had to dip into its $140 million (�110.12 million) endowment for operations because of the large financial incentives required to attract good students.
Across the United States, only about 60 women's colleges remain, from nearly 300 in the 1960s, according to the Women's College Coalition.
To go coed, the school must now adopt a new name -- there already is a Randolph-Macon College, a former men's school in Ashland. Christman hoped a task force would have a name to suggest this fall.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. |
Trustees called traitors for admitting men
"Millenia of Men Can't Be Wrong."  |
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seoulshock
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| What's wrong with men? |
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antoniothegreat
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all i want to say is imagine the reaction of this was reversed, an all men's school protesting because they did not want women admitted... How they would be biggots and sexist and every bad word in the English language.
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ShaneM
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Thats exactly what my girlfriend was saying.....if roles were reversed there would be a big story and the men would be called every word in the dictionary. |
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Qinella
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| I know I'm gonna sound like a thoughtless turd, but I think that some people are never allowed to complain about mistreatment in a politically correct society. Those people, in order from least allowed to complain to less least: men, whites, heterosexuals, Christians. Although the religious right is changing the last one a bit these days. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| men, whites, heterosexuals, Christians. Although the religious right is changing the last one a bit these days |
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One thing I have noticed lately, though maybe just because I am getting old is that Christians have always been criticised.
What I some times wonder is whether those who criticise have ever understood them.
I remember once in a class at Uni, how my professor and co-teachers were so anti missionaries and argued how they were the devil incarnate. Not one of them had ever met a missionary or lived on a mission field.
They took all their info from a book. I on the other hand had lived and knew missionaries and had seen the benefit and also the negatives. Admittedly I caught most of the flack from those who didn't think it was right to disagree with Uni Professors.
I guess it has made me complex as I really don't give much credence to peoples ideas unless they have experienced it and so unless they were bought up as a christian, then why do they have the right to say you know or can condemn christians. Or explain how they haven't been judged or how they are dominant and influence a society.
I have been judged my whole life and being a christian and supporting it has been one of the hardest things I have ever had to do. Be an arsehole and people seem to understand you, say you believe in christianity and see the knives come out.
I have been both, so can understand both positions. Anyway, try to live at peace with each other as its better than killing them. |
Sorry the above was in quotation marks, it was unintentional.  |
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Rteacher
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Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| I gather that some feminists of the bull-dyke persuasion don't appreciate competition from men for available young women ... |
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daskalos
Joined: 19 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| I gather that some feminists of the bull-dyke persuasion don't appreciate competition from men for available young women ... |
Hmm. Until now I've always thought of you as just a burned out idiot of the harmlessly annoying stripe. Now I realize you're actually quite a pernicious idiot. Has Krishna consciousness brought you to this state, or has it yet to cleanse you of it? |
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Imbroglio
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| I know I'm gonna sound like a thoughtless turd, but I think that some people are never allowed to complain about mistreatment in a politically correct society. Those people, in order from least allowed to complain to less least: men, whites, heterosexuals, Christians. Although the religious right is changing the last one a bit these days. |
Thier difenately all a bunch of loosers!  |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
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| No, if I were in pure consciousness I would see the spirit soul within every living being without focusing on material designations. That's just my own opinion formed due to worldly mindedness, and it's really common sensical, I think, given the nature of gender politics on some university campuses ... |
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djsmnc
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| all i want to say is imagine the reaction of this was reversed, an all men's school protesting because they did not want women admitted... How they would be biggots and sexist and every bad word in the English language. |
http://edition.cnn.com/US/9606/28/citadel.update/ |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
| I gather that some feminists of the bull-dyke persuasion don't appreciate competition from men for available young women ... |
Right on! |
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LexLibra
Joined: 09 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="antoniothegreat"]all i want to say is imagine the reaction of this was reversed, an all men's school protesting because they did not want women admitted... How they would be biggots and sexist and every bad word in the English language.[/quote]
uuhhh...that did happen. Remember when the Citadel lost their final appeal before the courts and were forced to admit women? I seem to remember their college store did a brisk business selling t-shirts that read, "400 Bulldogs, 1 B*tch." Right back at ya. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I gather that some feminists of the bull-dyke persuasion don't appreciate competition from men for available young women ... |
Right on! |
Think about it for a second.
Available young women will either be attracted to:
a) bull-dykes b) studly guys or c) other.
It is unlikely that men and bull dykes are going to be competing for the same girls. If the bull-dykes object to men on campus (it seems there is some opposition, but it is not clear from the article that the opponents are actually bull-dykes) it may not just be because they are sexually jealous. Single sex education is beneficial for females, but males thrive in co-ed systems. It is a conundrum; labelling those who favour maintaining a single sex policy as lesbians, bull-dykes no less, is not really helpful or constructive. The paradox of a role reversal - men calling for the exclusion of women - is a much more interesting tangent.
PS Rteacher: Did you know that Prabhupada had no more objection to promiscuous homosexuals than he did to promiscuous heterosexuals. You are free from the temptation of homosexuality - good for you - but it is by virtue of your biology, rather than your right action. Maybe you could start working on your other weaknesses; I don't know what they are, but we all have them, and leave other peoples' failings to the mercy of the Supreme.
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| No, if I were in pure consciousness I would see the spirit soul within every living being without focusing on material designations. |
And insteas you are just a fathead, eh fatty? |
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