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School with no heat??

 
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melvaughn



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: School with no heat?? Reply with quote

The teachers at the hagwon I just began working at claim that the school turns the heat off in winter. The kids bring blankets and the teachers have to teach in jackets. Their reasoning is that germs spread in heat but it sounds like an excuse to save money.
How common is this? I can only imagine how ridiculous all the teachers are going to look this winter teaching in winter gloves and hats Rolling Eyes But apparently all the teachers here think this is normal!
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this goes pretty high on stupid hagwon ideas. It's defnitely to save money.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

time to quit and find a better job.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
time to quit and find a better job.


I agree, and I am not saying that in jest. I really mean that. This has "BAD SCHOOL" written all over it. Give 30 days notice and find a new job.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure your colleagues aren't BSing you? You should ask your boss about it before making decision to give your 30 day notice.
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inform the labor inspector
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skdragon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha Ha!
I heard at Konyang the President fired a teacher one day as he was doing "inspections". The teacher was huddled in a non-heated classroom in winter teaching 3 kids out of a class that was supposed to be 30 odd. The kids didn't go cause there was no heat. The president wanted the teacher fired for not being able to get the kids to go to class, and by kids I mean university age students.

I've often worked at places that won't turn on the A/C, and prefer to have me sweat all over the students while I check their work!!!
Most institutes will turn on heat and a/c since it is a business, and making the students (clients) comfortable is important (teaching isn't).
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techno_the_cat



Joined: 30 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My second hakwon had a simular problem in winter. However, this was due to a broken boiler that the director was too lazy to fix. I would teach in a big jacket and remind myself that I only taught 16 hours a week. It wasn't too bad.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's at odds with the norm over here. Usually Koreans crank up the heating far to high so you have a situation where it's -2 outside and 27 degrees inside.
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HamuHamu



Joined: 01 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only worked at two hagwons that employed Korean teachers, and at both places, the K teachers wore coats, scarves and often gloves during the winter. Just came in from outside and never took any of it off. They thought that WE were weird for taking our outdoor clothes off, saying "But, it's winter, you need to wear a coat and scarf!"

Many of the students were the same - come in for a 90 minute class and sit with their coat on. I always tried to get them to take it off and they would go nuts "Teacher! Now is winter!!!" 10 minutes into the class they were stinky and dripping in sweat and complaining of being hot, and I really had to INSIST that they take off their coats, they just had a thing against it, and we would have to go through the same conversation every day.

The school had heat. It was just the mentality that it is winter, you wear winter clothes. Absurd.
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My very first job in Korea in 1991 was at such a school. I remember asking the director for a heater - as the mist billowed out of my mouth from the cold.

I could barely see her behind the misty ice cloud when she spoke and said, "It's not cold."!!!

Part of the "joy" of Korea!
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zark wrote:
My very first job in Korea in 1991 was at such a school. I remember asking the director for a heater - as the mist billowed out of my mouth from the cold.

I could barely see her behind the misty ice cloud when she spoke and said, "It's not cold."!!!

Part of the "joy" of Korea!


Ah! That brings back memories! My first school in '96 had 1 kerosene heater in my room. The kids used to rush into class so they could be the one to sit closest to it. I remember doing a lot of "stand up and move around" type of activities during the coldest part of the winter...teaching in my down jacket!

One thing that you do have to remember is that the students will be a lot colder than you, because you'll be standing up and moving around during class, while the kids are stuck in their seats. Maybe you could get your higher-level students to complain to their parents about the lack of heat. THEIR complaints will rate a whole lot higher than yours!
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Many of the students were the same - come in for a 90 minute class and sit with their coat on. I always tried to get them to take it off and they would go nuts "Teacher! Now is winter!!!" 10 minutes into the class they were stinky and dripping in sweat and complaining of being hot, and I really had to INSIST that they take off their coats, they just had a thing against it, and we would have to go through the same conversation every day.


Spot on! Laughing

Same thing in the public school I worked at.....kids would wear their coats, the teachers would crank up the heat and then open the windows to let in the cold air Rolling Eyes Laughing

I eventually found out that the reasoning behind that goes back to the use of kerosene heaters in the classroom....sometimes the fumes would be pretty strong so they needed to keep fresh air flowing in!
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno_the_cat wrote:
My second hakwon had a simular problem in winter. However, this was due to a broken boiler that the director was too lazy to fix. I would teach in a big jacket and remind myself that I only taught 16 hours a week. It wasn't too bad.


Love that avatar TECHNO Cat!!!
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