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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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 Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| PRagic wrote: |
| And you're teaching English? Ah, the power and allure of ESL, attracting programmers, lawyers, and professionals of all types into its web of mystery. Gluts in markets seem to do that. Back in the early 80s, programmers could name their own price; now, they are like accountants. Same goes for the law profession and the once-useful MBA - both now a virtual prerequisite for anything past entry level jobs in businessland. Programming? Still good to have as a hobby, though, as you could probably create some pretty kickin websites for your students (and other paying teachers)! Good on you. |
One, I have a CELTA with a pass B.
Two, I was a tutor during universtiy.
Three, programming actually gives me more of a feel for languages (as I had to create a basic language myself) than most BA degrees.
Four, my English is definitely better than many of the BAs on this site.
Five, I was offered a job at IBM, starting out as a tester or I could have stayed at my e-learning company where I was working part-time during my last year. I also could have worked for the federal government (HRDC) as I had worked for them for 8 months during a co-op placement. I didn't even enter the field because I learned (luckily through my several co-op placements) that I didn't want to sit behind a computer all day. I will be getting my BEd next year and go from there. I didn't go into this because I couldn't get a job. That's just a lazy reason people throw around here all the time. That's only for General Arts and Sociology Majors 
Sixth, I went to Japan first. I had always planned on it, though I thought I might get into programming there. Thank god I didn't, I really don't like the corporate atmosphere there...
Still, I'd rather have a Computer Science degree (even if I don't plan on using it), majoring in Information systems (which is database stuff mixed in with a lot of business courses) than a useless Arts degree. Did you know that Engineering or Computer Science degrees are one of the only ways non-EU passport holders can work in France without going through the massive amounts of red tape normally needed as long as you work in that field ofcourse (this may have changed, I was looking in 1999)? I looked into it, but then luckily the British law changed and I was able to attain British citizenship. |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with you on this one all the way. Unfortunately, there are those that will still insist that their years of experience, despite the fact that they have never upgraded their qualifications, should be allowed to teach on. Delusional.
Part of the problem rests within the system itself. Try to get a job at a Hong Kong or Japanese university with just a BA (oh, and a lot of experience). Good luck. Try to get a job teaching at a middle school or high school in Hong Kong without your BEd (and, for most slots, your MEd.) and home country certification. Again, good luck.
Koreans pay a lot of lip service, but do not back it up in practice |
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