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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Federer's good, no question about it. Potential to re-write tennis record books, no doubt about it. But he really hasn't done anything that hasn't already been done before by the likes of McEnroe, Borg, Connors, Lendl, Agassi, and others.
Only time will tell.
By the way, Jinju, Shumacher announced his retirement today from driving around in circles. Looks like Federer's all you've got left. |
1. Excuse me? He is 25, by the time he retires at 31 or 32 or 35 he will have shattered anything those guys have done. He is now 5 grandslams away from getting to where Sampras is. 5 grandslams? For Federer thats a year and a half worth of tennis. He will be the all time GS winner by mid 2008. Count on it.
2. I hate Schumacher so dont think Im sad to see him go. But I give tham man his dues. 90 GP wins is staggering. Thats almost double what the next top winner has (Prost at 51). He might, though I hope not, even win the Championship this year and leave a champion. And F1 has more viewers worldwide than golf does. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry all the comparisons go for naught Hapki. Thers only one way to decide this. Who will become first to set the record in Grand Slams/Majors wins. That to me is the only way to measure the two because all other comparisons are worthless. The one to take over the #1 place in his sport/game is the one that to me is the true winer of this little comparison. How can you compare a tennis tournament which is gruelling and a win or you're gone affair where if you lose you are out with golf where even with a catastrophic round means you can still come back and win the tournament? In Tennis you are either perfect throughout or you arent there at the end. It is also physically much more difficult. Golf is a stroll in a park. LITERALLY.
Federer will within 2 years be the all time Grand Slams winner. Tiger will not.
Its easy as that. Federer is much more dominant in his sport than tiger is in his game. |
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HapKi
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Stories abound in sports news about the two new friends, like this one-
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Federer nervous with Tiger in the house
By Larry Fine
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Roger Federer has won nine of his 10 grand slam finals but the 25-year-old Swiss said he was nervous playing in front of his new friend Tiger Woods.
The world number one golfer attended the U.S. Open final as Federer's guest, sitting in the front row of the players' box to watch him beat American Andy Roddick on Sunday.
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Federer said despite all the pressure surrounding the grand slam tournament final, he was aware of Woods's presence.
"You get that feeling. It's like maybe the first time your parents see you do something special, or somebody comes to you, you really maybe look up to," Federer told reporters.
"For me, it's like when I go out there and I see Tiger sitting there, it's like, I try to play well, you know? I try to kind of get my act together and focus and get off to a good start."
Federer did just that, taking the first set from Roddick in 29 minutes to set the tone for his victory.
The Swiss said he and Woods, who has dominated golf in much the same way as he has ruled tennis, had been trying to arrange a get together for some time.
"More and more often, over the last year or so I've been kind of compared to Tiger, what he's doing on the golf tour, me doing on the tennis tour. So today was kind of the day where finally we got to meet and chat a little longer.
"For me it's very nice to get to meet him finally after all the time we've been trying to get to see each other," said Federer. "You would think that we would get a chance to see each other. Our schedules, they collide."
INTERESTING TALK
Woods told Federer he would travel to New York if he reached the final and the Swiss said they had an interesting talk in the locker room before the match.
"I asked him how it was for him. It's funny because many things were similar," Federer said.
"He knew exactly how I kind of felt out on the court.
"That's something that I haven't felt before, you know, a guy who knows how it feels to feel invincible at times and when you just have the feeling like there's nothing going wrong any more."
Federer said the way he demolished Roddick in the fourth and final set, allowing the American only 13 points as he clinched his ninth grand slam title, was similar to how Woods shuts the door on his rivals when he has a lead on Sundays.
Woods also gave Federer's parents a thrill by talking on the phone to them.
"My parents are great golfers, so he was nice enough to talk to them, as well, over the phone. They're not in bed yet, so it was great," Federer said.
With his U.S. Open victory, Federer moved within five of the record total of 14 won by Pete Sampras. Woods, who won the last two golf majors, the British Open and PGA Championship, has 12 major titles, six short of Jack Nicklaus's record of 18.
Federer said he has been invited to return the favor and watch Woods go to work at a golf major.
"I'm going to go to each Masters, each grand slam he plays and get him back."
Updated on Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 11:30 pm EDT
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Federer is a nice guy. But Im sure he was trying to stop from laughing when he called Tiger an athelete. He is a nice guy though.
All your little comparisons are for naught. At 25 Federer is historically more dominant in his sport than Tiger at 30 in his game, both in terms of short term domination (over the last 3 years) and career-wise. federer is much closer to taking over the all time lead in Grand Slam wins than Tiger is and Over the last 3 years (since the beginning of 2003) Federer has won 9 grand slams compared to 4 for Tiger.
Yes, Tiger has more Majors wins.
Federer is much more dominant now than Tiger is and thats just a fact.
And Federer plays a sport. Tiger plays a game and strolls around a park.
The Way Federer is going, winning about 3 grand slams per year, he will overtake Sampras in 2008. Tiger will take a bit longer. Federer will be younger than Wodds when he does it, showing that he is by a long shot more dominant and a better athelete than Tiger. But hey, since Woods isnt an athelete then even a minor league 3rd string goalie is a better athelete than Woods. |
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inspector gadget
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Location: jeollanam-do in the boonies
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Jinju,
Both Tiger and Federer are leaps and bounds ahead of the competition in there respective sports, I think anyone would admit that.
Lets wait until retirement to figure out who has been the most dominant throughout thier career.
Did you forget to comment about Federer saying "I love the sport" referring to golf of coarse. |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
Federer is a nice guy. But Im sure he was trying to stop from laughing when he called Tiger an athelete. He is a nice guy though.
All your little comparisons are for naught. At 25 Federer is historically more dominant in his sport than Tiger at 30 in his game, both in terms of short term domination (over the last 3 years) and career-wise. federer is much closer to taking over the all time lead in Grand Slam wins than Tiger is and Over the last 3 years (since the beginning of 2003) Federer has won 9 grand slams compared to 4 for Tiger.
Yes, Tiger has more Majors wins.
Federer is much more dominant now than Tiger is and thats just a fact.
And Federer plays a sport. Tiger plays a game and strolls around a park.
The Way Federer is going, winning about 3 grand slams per year, he will overtake Sampras in 2008. Tiger will take a bit longer. Federer will be younger than Wodds when he does it, showing that he is by a long shot more dominant and a better athelete than Tiger. But hey, since Woods isnt an athelete then even a minor league 3rd string goalie is a better athelete than Woods. |
Jinju, I think it's safe to say that no one is going to convince you that golf is a sport. Anyway, that's your opinion. Regardless of what you think of golf, I don't see how you can say that Tiger isn't an athlete. During the regular season, he runs daily and pumps iron. In the off-season he's in the gym 2-3 hours a day, 5 days a week. That comes right out of Golf Digest where Tiger's one of the playing editors. The guy's an athlete. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Doogie wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
Federer is a nice guy. But Im sure he was trying to stop from laughing when he called Tiger an athelete. He is a nice guy though.
All your little comparisons are for naught. At 25 Federer is historically more dominant in his sport than Tiger at 30 in his game, both in terms of short term domination (over the last 3 years) and career-wise. federer is much closer to taking over the all time lead in Grand Slam wins than Tiger is and Over the last 3 years (since the beginning of 2003) Federer has won 9 grand slams compared to 4 for Tiger.
Yes, Tiger has more Majors wins.
Federer is much more dominant now than Tiger is and thats just a fact.
And Federer plays a sport. Tiger plays a game and strolls around a park.
The Way Federer is going, winning about 3 grand slams per year, he will overtake Sampras in 2008. Tiger will take a bit longer. Federer will be younger than Wodds when he does it, showing that he is by a long shot more dominant and a better athelete than Tiger. But hey, since Woods isnt an athelete then even a minor league 3rd string goalie is a better athelete than Woods. |
Jinju, I think it's safe to say that no one is going to convince you that golf is a sport. Anyway, that's your opinion. Regardless of what you think of golf, I don't see how you can say that Tiger isn't an athlete. During the regular season, he runs daily and pumps iron. In the off-season he's in the gym 2-3 hours a day, 5 days a week. That comes right out of Golf Digest where Tiger's one of the playing editors. The guy's an athlete. |
Just because he pumps iron and runs doesnt make him an athelete.
Im sure some accountants pump iron and run.
Accounting isnt a sport
Accountants arent atheletes
even if they pump iron and run. |
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poker player
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: On the river
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Typical Whinju thread.
He reminds me of a 7 year old running around the playground with his fingers in his ears screaming at the top of his voice "Golfisnotasportgolfisnotasportgolfisnotasportgolfisnotasportgolfisnotasport"
So treat him like you would any out of control 7 year old -ignore him- he'll stop screaming if no one pays any attention to him. |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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This thread's been all about Tiger, so here's Tiger's view on the best athlete in the world...........Michael Schumacher. Here's the article from MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14805870/ |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Doogie wrote: |
This thread's been all about Tiger, so here's Tiger's view on the best athlete in the world...........Michael Schumacher. Here's the article from MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14805870/ |
Yep, so what do the losers who laughed at F1 have to say now? 90GP wins, 7 (maybe  championships in one of the fastest and most dangerous sports in the world. Golf compared to f1 is a laughinstock. Its guys in khakis strolling around in a park hitting a ball once in a while. |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Doogie wrote: |
This thread's been all about Tiger, so here's Tiger's view on the best athlete in the world...........Michael Schumacher. Here's the article from MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14805870/ |
Yep, so what do the losers who laughed at F1 have to say now? 90GP wins, 7 (maybe championships in one of the fastest and most dangerous sports in the world. Golf compared to f1 is a laughinstock. Its guys in khakis strolling around in a park hitting a ball once in a while. |
Obviously, Tiger looks at F1 racing as a sport and the drivers as athletes. Jinju, you say golf isn't a sport but a bunch of guys driving cars around a track is a sport? How much athletic ability does it take to drive a car? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Doogie wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| Doogie wrote: |
This thread's been all about Tiger, so here's Tiger's view on the best athlete in the world...........Michael Schumacher. Here's the article from MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14805870/ |
Yep, so what do the losers who laughed at F1 have to say now? 90GP wins, 7 (maybe championships in one of the fastest and most dangerous sports in the world. Golf compared to f1 is a laughinstock. Its guys in khakis strolling around in a park hitting a ball once in a while. |
Obviously, Tiger looks at F1 racing as a sport and the drivers as athletes. Jinju, you say golf isn't a sport but a bunch of guys driving cars around a track is a sport? How much athletic ability does it take to drive a car? |
Driving cars in a loop for 200 laps (or whatever) is not a sport. Racing around Paris or something atleast has the makings of a sport. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Athletic ability to drive a car:
1. A driver has to be in insanely good condition to handle the g forces involved in the sport. Anyone saying F1 is driving around in a circle dosnt know the sport. Infact F1 dosnt have a single oval track. The g-forces in the turns range between 3-5.
2. again, to be able to take a full race of 60-70 laps with numerous turns that inflict high g forces on a driver, a driver has to be supemely fit. F1 puts more stress on an ethelete than any sport on the planet.
3. F1 also tests drivers in other ways. At the speeds they race at and the proximity of cars to each other in dangerous situations, a driver of an F1 car has to have pretty much the best relfexes among any atheletes in the world. Imagine going into hairpin turns at 200mph, deccelerating to 20, overtaking another driver and accelerating back to 200mph all within 200-300m or so on a track no wider than city streets. And this is done over and over again. A driver will have to take huge fluctuations in g-forces for prety much 2 hours without a rest. Reflexes, g-forces, stamina, are all tsted under brutal conditions with lives literally on the line.
And they keep going even in torrential downpours where visibility is often close to nothing.
Golfers walk around dressed in khakis, sipping juice handed to them by their caddies. if it rains, they run for cover. They might catch a cold or get their khakis wet, and that would be uncivilized. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Athletic ability to drive a car:
1. A driver has to be in insanely good condition to handle the g forces involved in the sport. Anyone saying F1 is driving around in a circle dosnt know the sport. Infact F1 dosnt have a single oval track. The g-forces in the turns range between 3-5.
2. again, to be able to take a full race of 60-70 laps with numerous turns that inflict high g forces on a driver, a driver has to be supemely fit. F1 puts more stress on an ethelete than any sport on the planet.
3. F1 also tests drivers in other ways. At the speeds they race at and the proximity of cars to each other in dangerous situations, a driver of an F1 car has to have pretty much the best relfexes among any atheletes in the world. Imagine going into hairpin turns at 200mph, deccelerating to 20, overtaking another driver and accelerating back to 200mph all within 200-300m or so on a track no wider than city streets. And this is done over and over again. A driver will have to take huge fluctuations in g-forces for prety much 2 hours without a rest. Reflexes, g-forces, stamina, are all tsted under brutal conditions with lives literally on the line.
And they keep going even in torrential downpours where visibility is often close to nothing.
Golfers walk around dressed in khakis, sipping juice handed to them by their caddies. if it rains, they run for cover. They might catch a cold or get their khakis wet, and that would be uncivilized. |
Are fighter pilots sports players? Look, I was with you on the golf, but you sound the exact same as Hapki now. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
Athletic ability to drive a car:
1. A driver has to be in insanely good condition to handle the g forces involved in the sport. Anyone saying F1 is driving around in a circle dosnt know the sport. Infact F1 dosnt have a single oval track. The g-forces in the turns range between 3-5.
2. again, to be able to take a full race of 60-70 laps with numerous turns that inflict high g forces on a driver, a driver has to be supemely fit. F1 puts more stress on an ethelete than any sport on the planet.
3. F1 also tests drivers in other ways. At the speeds they race at and the proximity of cars to each other in dangerous situations, a driver of an F1 car has to have pretty much the best relfexes among any atheletes in the world. Imagine going into hairpin turns at 200mph, deccelerating to 20, overtaking another driver and accelerating back to 200mph all within 200-300m or so on a track no wider than city streets. And this is done over and over again. A driver will have to take huge fluctuations in g-forces for prety much 2 hours without a rest. Reflexes, g-forces, stamina, are all tsted under brutal conditions with lives literally on the line.
And they keep going even in torrential downpours where visibility is often close to nothing.
Golfers walk around dressed in khakis, sipping juice handed to them by their caddies. if it rains, they run for cover. They might catch a cold or get their khakis wet, and that would be uncivilized. |
Are fighter pilots sports players? Look, I was with you on the golf, but you sound the exact same as Hapki now. |
Fighter pilots are not because flying jets isnt considered a sport despite being highly athletic. They would make excellent atheletes though. Golfers WOULDNT make good atheletes because nothing they do is athletic. |
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