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mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:43 am Post subject:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

mindmetoo wrote:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

You know, that's why I kind of wish that the US-Korea FTA comes through. I have no respect for people that use violence to defend their position. Ironically, Korea and Canada have been in talks for a FTA (it might have already been signed, for all I know) and nobody seems to care. I know Korea has signed FTA with other countries. You think the whole thing has more to do with anti-Americanism than protectionism? Couldn't be! Rolling Eyes

That is true. The Chile FTA did raise some ire. But I guess no one pays much attention to lil ol' Canada when the USA is also doing a FTA deal. Or maybe Koreans just assume Canada is part of the USA and any change to the USA/Korea FTA will cover Canada.

Most Koreans would be surprised to know that Canada produces rice and ginseng.

Many would cry in their sHite beer if you told them a) the chili pepper is not native to Korea but South America b) the Japanese introduced the chili pepper to Korea.

I mentioned that once to an American woman friend with a Korean BF over MSN. She passed that on to her BF. Holy crap, suddenly him and his Korean buddy just freaked out. "It's impossible! It's not true!"

It's like telling a Canadian the telephone really, really isn't a Canadian invention.

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:44 am Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

It's like telling a Canadian the telephone really, really isn't a Canadian invention.

HOW!!!??? TV told me it was.

mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject:

laogaiguk wrote:

mindmetoo wrote:

It's like telling a Canadian the telephone really, really isn't a Canadian invention.

HOW!!!??? TV told me it was.

Bell lived a year in Canada Smile

That's about the extent of his connection to Canada. He had dual Canadian/American citizenship. He invented the phone in the USA, as an American citizen, using American money. It's a bit like Canada claiming Titanic was the highest grossing Canadian movie in history, simply because the director was Canadian.

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

laogaiguk wrote:

mindmetoo wrote:

It's like telling a Canadian the telephone really, really isn't a Canadian invention.

HOW!!!??? TV told me it was.

Bell lived a year in Canada Smile

I have never heard that one before and wouldn't know how to respond to it. Have you really heard that???

Hollywoodaction

Joined: 02 Jul 2004

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

mindmetoo wrote:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

Most Koreans would be surprised to know that Canada produces rice and ginseng.

Many would cry in their *beep* beer if you told them a) the chili pepper is not native to Korea but South America b) the Japanese introduced the chili pepper to Korea.

I mentioned that once to an American woman friend with a Korean BF over MSN. She passed that on to her BF. Holy crap, suddenly him and his Korean buddy just freaked out. "It's impossible! It's not true!"

It's like telling a Canadian the telephone really, really isn't a Canadian invention.

I know, it was invented in Canada by a Scot who, I think, may have never had Canadian citizenship. But that's nothing. Try telling an American that the light bulb isn't an American invention (Edison bought the patent off some Canadian dude and perfected it).

coolsage

Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject:

Before this thread degenerates into yet another Canada vs. US talking shop, I, as a hoser, was not aware that rice is grown in Canada. The ginseng I know about, but rice? Surely the climate can't support that. If I'm misinformed, somebody please fill me in.

VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject:

coolsage wrote:

I, as a hoser, was not aware that rice is grown in Canada. The ginseng I know about, but rice? Surely the climate can't support that. If I'm misinformed, somebody please fill me in.

Quote:

Canada's Wild Rice Industry

Wild rice's history reaches far back in time. The Algonquian and Siouan peoples called it manomen and harvested it for centuries before the arrival of the first Europeans. The early explorers relied on it in their travels through the northern wilds. Rather than a true member of the rice family, wild rice, is a seed from an aquatic grass, belonging to the genus Zizania aquatica. There are several varieties of wild rice, including northern (palustris), interior, southern (aquatica), estuarine (brevis), and Texas (Texana). The only cereal native to Canada, wild rice is the sole Canadian wild grass that grows from seed each year and that produces a grain of sufficient size to be used for human consumption. Wild rice is found, primarily, in shallow water along the shores of rivers and streams and, to a lesser extent, at lake sites where the water current is relatively slow and constant.

The cultivation of wild rice has challenged farmers for over 100 years. There are numerous bodies of water in Canada where wild rice does not naturally occur, and where attempts to grow it, have resulted in failure. Lack of success in establishing wild rice stands in natural waters has been attributed to a number of factors, such as insects, disease, animals, water level fluctuations, and the chemistry of the water. The limited availability of wild rice has made it higher priced than many forms of rice.

In early fall, the ripe seeds from mature wild rice plants fall onto the muddy bottoms of shallow lakes and streams. The seeds lie dormant at freezing or near-freezing temperatures through the fall and winter. Spring suns warm the seeds and sends out a root sprout which attaches itself loosely to the soft soil. The plants will generally germinate and grow best in about two feet of water, but can grow in four or more feet of water under favourable conditions. Once the stem and leaves develop a foot or two above the water, the growth changes from vegetable to floral. After pollination, it takes two to three weeks for the seed to fully develop. When mature, the greenish black-brown seed detaches easily from the stem. While traditional harvesting by canoe and hand-beating, still plays an important role, so do modern air boat harvesters, skimming over the waters, passing gently through the rice stands, collecting ripened kernels in specially designed trays.

Volume of Production
Canadian wild rice production is concentrated in the provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario. Saskatchewan is the primary producer, accounting for almost 70% of total Canadian production in 2003. Canadian production has focused exclusively on wild rice that has been harvested from natural bodies of water - known as Canadian Lake Wild Rice - as opposed to being cultivated or paddy-grown, as is largely the case in the United States. Canadian wild rice production has fluctuated greatly over the past five years. In 2000, production decreased 68% to 846 tonnes from 2,631 tonnes in 1999. Production rebounded in 2001 and 2002, increasing to 1,357 tonnes and 2,676 tonnes, respectively. The upward trend of wild rice production, however, was halted in 2003, when production declined to 2,195 tonnes.

Disposition
After falling 45% from 1,120 tonnes in 1999 to 614 tonnes in 2000, wild rice exports have been increasing annually. Since 2000, exports have increased almost 65% to reach 1,013 tonnes in 2003. The main destination for Canadian wild rice is the United States, importing 84% of Canada's exports in 2003. Germany, Denmark, and the Netherlands were also major importers in 2003.

http://www.agr.gc.ca/misb/spec/index_e.php?s1=rice-riz&page=intro

"rice" "production" "Canada" takes five seconds to type into google.ca

And I recall that rice consumption is higher in America than Korea, tell that to your students and watch them go Shocked

then tell them that's in terms of totals and indicate population disparity (again they go Shocked

)and then introduce the notion of per capita to make them feel better.

coolsage

Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:00 am Post subject:

VI, I sit corrected. But wild rice is a top-shelf gourmet product. I don't believe that there's any commercial production of 'tame' rice in the Great White North. I'd forgotten about the wild rice. Damn, that stuff is good. I wish I had some right now.

jajdude

Joined: 18 Jan 2003

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:59 am Post subject:

Gwangjuboy wrote:

Koreans are so obsessed with being an "expensive" nation. It's nuts when you think about per capita GDP in Korea compared with other industrialised nations. Certain Koreans don't give a damn that most of their people can't afford to live a decent life; they just obsess about being an expensive country. Bizarro.

Yeah, that is odd. What's to brag about in being expensive? Does it make you feel rich, or like equal to other countries like Japan or wherever?

I bet Thais and many others will brag the opposite. Cheap= good for tourism.

It's like bragging about the weather, or your language being difficult.

Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:52 am Post subject:

I believe wild rice is much healthier for you than white rice as well. They grow it in Saskatchewan. It tastes good and it's healthy for you. Much better than the Korean rice but don't tell Koreans that. Koreans in general are ultra competitiive and compare themselves to everyone else. I don't know about being the most expensive but someone posted a list of everything Korea led the world in on this forum. From safety accidents to mild retardation. It had it all.

bucheon bum

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:22 am Post subject:

Guri Guy wrote:

I believe wild rice is much healthier for you than white rice as well. They grow it in Saskatchewan. It tastes good and it's healthy for you.

white rice in general is less healthy than any other rice out there.

Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:19 am Post subject:

hepcat wrote:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

I have no respect for people that use violence to defend their position.

So you must have no respect for Americans--trigger-happy at home, bomb-happy abroad. Military bases in 130 of 180 the world's nations.

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Roll!

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Privateer

Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject:

laogaiguk wrote:

mindmetoo wrote:

It's like telling a Canadian the telephone really, really isn't a Canadian invention.

HOW!!!??? TV told me it was.

Wow. I knew Bell was American in America and Scottish in Britain but I didn't know in Canada he was Canadian.

Roch

Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject:

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

I have an acquaintance who favors FTAs with smaller economies but objects to the proposed one with the US. Why? Because Korea can dominate the smaller ones.

The R.O.K. has dominated the U.S. for most of the history of the so-called partnership. Most people do not know this fact.

I mentioned this to a young woman last weekend, and she went ballistic and told me to go forkin' home to the U.S.

Korea has had it very, very, very good for decades with the U.S. taxpayer and consumers.

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