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Why AFN Korea doesnt carry the NFL and other sports
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject: Why AFN Korea doesnt carry the NFL and other sports Reply with quote

I posted this question on the USFK discussion board and the AFN commander just posted a great answer why here it is:

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Hey, as the AFN commander it makes no difference to me whether you buy the AAFES package or not...I'm not seeing any piece of that Smile

For those of you I haven't met, let me introduce myself. I'm Lt. Col. Mike Lawhorn, and I'm the AFN commander here in Korea. I just took command on 21 July.

First, let me apologize for no one answering you.

I'm actually surprised by that because we've been answering a lot of emails in the recent weeks over just these issues. In the last six weeks, we've had an increase in the number of emails...not in the variety of issues, but just the number. I say this only to show that I KNOW we�re answering emails, but I accept full responsibility for us not answering yours.

Most AFN questions boil down to two issues: how do I get more channels off-post, and why can't I see "X" when it's clearly obvious that everyone else wants "X" just as much as I do?

Hey, if it were up to me, we'd have "Battlestar Galactica" on all the time Smile

Okay, there are two basic reasons you're not going to see much NFL football on AFN Prime Pacific, and by "not much" I mean "none except for the Superbowl". You ARE going to see college football on AFN Prime, but not NFL

First, AFN Prime Pacific is our channel for variety programming. That basically means it�s �everything for everybody�. It�s also where we put our most popular programs, and it draws the widest audience.

Second, as you may know, cable signal pirating is an issue here in Korea. We�re actually preparing another round of briefings up here on just this issue and whether or not something can be done about it. AFN Prime is our one channel (and we can only physically do this with one channel) that goes out over the open air waves where someone with an antenna can grab it.

Like maybe a cable company that then puts that signal into their own cable package ??? Just hypothetically speaking of course 

Guess what happens to us when the NFL finds out that we�re putting this signal out where just anyone can grab it and put it into their cable package?

Yeah, you get the picture�That�s another reason the NFL stuff stays on AFN Sports, AFN Extra, or AFN Atlantic. Great if you�re on the Cable system or have your dish/decoder (and your landlord actually lets you put it up), but not if you�re on the Korean cable system or just off base with an antenna.

Hey, probably not the answer you wanted, but I promise I will always get you an answer.

Sincerely,
Mike Lawhorn


finally a good answer from somebody in charge Very Happy

can a mod sticky this or put it somewhere where people can see it there have been a ton of threads about this
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ronnie



Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mod Edit: Edited for content.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see 2 games of NFL a week in korea and i don't even like gridiron, SBS sports usually covers it....

hogwonguy1979, you have been here long enough to be able to speak enough Korean to watch it....since 1999 right???
-Simple answer to all and sundry, learn Korean...sports commentary korean is a piece of piss
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
I see 2 games of NFL a week in korea and i don't even like gridiron, SBS sports usually covers it....

hogwonguy1979, you have been here long enough to be able to speak enough Korean to watch it....since 1999 right???
-Simple answer to all and sundry, learn Korean...sports commentary korean is a piece of piss


Two words: De. Lay.

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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:

Two words: De. Lay.
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But thats only one word?????? Very Happy

BTW...hagwonguy1979, sorry to be a little harsh....just stream it. I know you know the stream websites......
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:


BTW...hagwonguy1979, sorry to be a little harsh....just stream it. I know you know the stream websites......


I do but people were wondering why AFN wasn't showing after all these years of showing games.

I got them an answer straight from the top
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love AFN. At first I really couldn't stand it, but as its the only English-language channel that I get I have slowly learnt to accept the propoganda. I try to use the 'buddy' system, I'm careful of what I say in certain places (you never know who's listening), and I wish that someone could practice 'under-the-oak-tree counselling' with me before long weekends and holidays. The 'why I serve' shorts are truly inspirational, and I feel that, truly, we can forth together with our great Korean hosts.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
I love AFN. At first I really couldn't stand it, but as its the only English-language channel that I get I have slowly learnt to accept the propoganda. I try to use the 'buddy' system, I'm careful of what I say in certain places (you never know who's listening), and I wish that someone could practice 'under-the-oak-tree counselling' with me before long weekends and holidays. The 'why I serve' shorts are truly inspirational, and I feel that, truly, we can forth together with our great Korean hosts.


You are quite right TF. I have also found the adverts encouraging people to give up chewing tobacco very persuasive.

ilovebdt
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Nambucaveman



Joined: 03 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hogwonguy,

Thanks for posting the response. I too wondered why AFN did this. At least now we know why.

NC
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
...I'm careful of what I say in certain places (you never know who's listening)...


Oh, you gotta practive good OPSEC, for sure.

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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: Why AFN Korea doesnt carry the NFL and other sports Reply with quote

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Hey, if it were up to me, we'd have "Battlestar Galactica" on all the time Smile


Give this man more autonomy.
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
I love AFN. At first I really couldn't stand it, but as its the only English-language channel that I get I have slowly learnt to accept the propoganda. I try to use the 'buddy' system, I'm careful of what I say in certain places (you never know who's listening), and I wish that someone could practice 'under-the-oak-tree counselling' with me before long weekends and holidays. The 'why I serve' shorts are truly inspirational, and I feel that, truly, we can forth together with our great Korean hosts.


Heck, I really want to go to their restaurants and bars, join in their recreational activites, and meet their women.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the response to the OPs AFN question a bit strange. The colonel who supposedly answered the message seemed more like a punk airman to me. Anyway doesn't make much sense. They've been piping out those games for years and NOW they are worried about the NFL getting offended. This has been going on for how many years now. Yeah, we all know what rabidNFL fans Koreans are Rolling Eyes Yeah...that must be it. I guess they don't want those grubby expats getting free NFL. Oh but AFN will be showing college football...but what about the NCAA? Won't they be worried about those rabidKorean football fans and those grubby little waygooks watching the Kansas/Toledo game on Saturday. Oh, heaven forbid!!! The NCAA might start breathing down their necks. Oh, I get it...the NCAA is not important...only the NFL is. AFN, without sports programming, just sucks. The only thing to really watch is Leno, Letterman. Outside that...crap.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wishmaster wrote:
AFN, without sports programming, just sucks. The only thing to really watch is Leno, Letterman. Outside that...crap.


Oh now. They've got Monster Garage. If only they had Myth Busters.
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
Wishmaster wrote:
AFN, without sports programming, just sucks. The only thing to really watch is Leno, Letterman. Outside that...crap.


Oh now. They've got Monster Garage. If only they had Myth Busters.


Also:

Survivor
Ebert & Roeper
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