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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Location: Eungam Loop
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:43 am Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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Thats what all apologists say.
How is trying to justify something as crass and objectionable as approaching complete strangers and commenting on their dating choice not apologising. |
You just don't get it do you...There has been no justification. Just ACCEPTANCE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
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| There is no "cultural difference" explanation here; that is if said culture belongs in the 21st century. |
Except Korea obviously, since it's happening in Korea in the 21st century. |
You are the one who doesnt get it. Did you not say that Korean men act in this way because koreans see themselves as one people? Did you not go on to say 'how would you feel if your sister was dating a middle easterner who smelled different and couldnt speak the language? Did you say those things? That is rationalization of korean behavior on your part.
I also accept the circumstances. I accept a lot of messed up things in Korea. That doesnt make them right.
Do you know what belongs means? This aspect of Korean culture has no place in a 21st century society. |
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DCJames

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Benicio wrote: |
Korean dudes generally like 'em as young as they can get 'em.
I read an interesting book about the differences in predilections.
Western guys, when they fantasize, usually think about some sexy as all get out hell cat who is gonna take us down and totally rock our world.
East Asian guys generally fantasize about a very, very young, innocent and inexperienced girl who doesn't know anything and resists the act.
Points to feelings of inadequacy and insecurity in the need to dominate others. |
and do you fantasize about having a brain? |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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| Beej wrote: |
You are the one who doesnt get it. |
No, your mom is the one who doesn't get it. You are lonely in Korea, and feel alienated, so she needs to send more cookies. She might be upset if she knew you were spending all your time in the PC room complaining about Koreans though. |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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There is an old joke in Japan:
Q Why are Japanese women like Christmas cake?
A Because after the 25th, nobody wants them anymore.
Sorry. Crappy joke.
I would agree though that Korean men prefer younger women. That's not really a shock though as it is common around the world. |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand. Good article on the sex trade and sex tourism industry in Asia:
Moreover, virgins are in great demand among Chinese from Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong. Chinese men prize sexual intercourse with young girls for the rejuvenating properties they believe to be associated with the act. According to O'Grady, "there are surprisingly large number of aging and wealthy Chinese businessmen who believe that they must deflower a virgin at least once a year to gain the energy needed to be successful in their business enterprise and have a long life"(16). However, the idea that a child is safer than an adult in terms of transmitting STDs and AIDS is only fallacy. In fact, children are at greater risks because of youth: their vaginas and anuses are easily torn, creating sores and bleeding that permit the AIDS virus to spread quickly.
Sex tours started in Japan, allowing groups of men to visit brothels in South Korea, Taiwan, and Thailand. Now South Korean and Taiwanese men are prosperous enough to travel on sex tours of their own to places like Bangkok or Manila. Southeast Asia is now the world's number one destination for tourists looking for sex.(20). Many sex tourists are from the West, but a great number of Japanese and Chinese are also drawn by the low prices, easy access to prostitutes of either sex at any age and the lack of enforcement of laws. Without doubt, the rising sex tourism is contributing to the spread of AIDS everywhere.
http://www.american.edu/projects/mandala/TED/myansex.htm |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
| Do you know what belongs means? This aspect of Korean culture has no place in a 21st century society. |
That may be so, but allow me to reiterate that it is part of a 21st century society, and while your furious internet ramblings are effecting social change at breakneck speed, you may just have to learn to live with it for the time being. Or go somewhere else (that's what I did! - have you heard about living in the west? It's GREAT!)
Don't forget to share your cookies. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Location: Eungam Loop
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
You are the one who doesnt get it. |
No, your mom is the one who doesn't get it. You are lonely in Korea, and feel alienated, so she needs to send more cookies. She might be upset if she knew you were spending all your time in the PC room complaining about Koreans though. |
Wow, mom jokes: the last refuge for those who cant argue on the merits. Come on man, you are better than that.
You are the most pathetic type of apologist. Came to Korea, got himself a local girlfriend, got his peepee wet for the first time in ten years ( maybe ever). You feel so much gratitude for this you say " I dont know why foreigners knock korean society. My girlfriends parents accept me. You must be lonely and sad. Koreans have good reasons for their barbaric behavior."
Know this. When I think of my experience with women here, the word lonely doesnt enter into the picture. Try inundated and worn out. Hell, in a few cases I wish some Korean guy would have shamed the girl into not seeing me early on so I could have avoided the drama. I bet there is even a good chance I did your girlfriend before you got here. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Location: Eungam Loop
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
| Do you know what belongs means? This aspect of Korean culture has no place in a 21st century society. |
That may be so, but allow me to reiterate that it is part of a 21st century society, and while your furious internet ramblings are effecting social change at breakneck speed, you may just have to learn to live with it for the time being. Or go somewhere else (that's what I did! - have you heard about living in the west? It's GREAT!)
Don't forget to share your cookies. |
Love it or leave it? Is that the gist of your argument? I like Korea. Korea has been good to me. No Korean man has affected my relationships with Korean women in any way. I never had to learn to live with Korean society. Im not Korean. Even though I live here, I can look from afar and call it as I see it.
Does the fact that I have not been affected make their behavior any less repugnant. No. No.
I will continue to criticize things i dont like and praise things I do, even if I cant " Affect social change at breakneck speed." |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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Wow, mom jokes: the last refuge for those who cant argue on the merits. Come on man, you are better than that.
You are the most pathetic type of apologist. Came to Korea, got himself a local girlfriend, got his peepee wet for the first time in ten years ( maybe ever). You feel so much gratitude for this you say " I dont know why foreigners knock korean society. My girlfriends parents accept me. You must be lonely and sad. Koreans have good reasons for their barbaric behavior."
Know this. When I think of my experience with women here, the word lonely doesnt enter into the picture. Try inundated and worn out. Hell, in a few cases I wish some Korean guy would have shamed the girl into not seeing me early on so I could have avoided the drama. I bet there is even a good chance I did your girlfriend before you got here. |
wow. bragging about how much tail you get. who is that the last refuge for?
sigh... i don't even know why i'm in this argument. i don't know djsmnc from a hole in the ground, so i've got no reason to back him up, outside of the fact that he seemed to be a pretty nice guy with a solid strategy for handling situations that he is unable to change.
and i've got nothing against a good beej, except when it's one who throws around the word 'apologist' any chance he can get because it's the biggest word he knows and makes him sound all grown up and mature, and then follows it by 'i've shagged more k-girls than you!' |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
wow. bragging about how much tail you get. who is that the last refuge for?
sigh... i don't even know why i'm in this argument. |
I've been trying to figure that one out myself. Then again, I don't know why mindmetoo is still arguing with Rteacher about science and why I bothered in the boshintang thread. Sometimes you just can't believe someone actually believes something, and you hope they are just trolling. The scary thing is, I don't know if Beej is actually a troll or not. |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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| Beej wrote: |
Wow, mom jokes: the last refuge for those who cant argue on the merits.
I bet there is even a good chance I did your girlfriend before you got here. |
I'll see your "yo' mama" and raise you a "I had your woman." LOL
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| i don't even know why i'm in this argument |
I know - I was going to leave them to it, but then I read beej's pathetic attempt at humour over in the current events school shootings thread.
Anyway, I suspect that in person there wouldn't be very much to disagree about - but this is the Internet! I want to be rude to strangers! |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
Wow, mom jokes: the last refuge for those who cant argue on the merits.
I bet there is even a good chance I did your girlfriend before you got here. |
I'll see your "yo' mama" and raise you a "I had your woman." LOL
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| i don't even know why i'm in this argument |
I know - I was going to leave them to it, but then I read his pathetic attempt at humour over in the current events school shootings thread.
Anyway, I suspect that in person there wouldn't be very much to disagree about - but this is the Internet! I want to be rude to strangers! |
Same here. That was one of the most tasteless things I had seen in awhile. Sort of like when I heard an Australian say, "Good for the terrorists. America needs a few more buildings knocked down." |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Location: Eungam Loop
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
Wow, mom jokes: the last refuge for those who cant argue on the merits. Come on man, you are better than that.
You are the most pathetic type of apologist. Came to Korea, got himself a local girlfriend, got his peepee wet for the first time in ten years ( maybe ever). You feel so much gratitude for this you say " I dont know why foreigners knock korean society. My girlfriends parents accept me. You must be lonely and sad. Koreans have good reasons for their barbaric behavior."
Know this. When I think of my experience with women here, the word lonely doesnt enter into the picture. Try inundated and worn out. Hell, in a few cases I wish some Korean guy would have shamed the girl into not seeing me early on so I could have avoided the drama. I bet there is even a good chance I did your girlfriend before you got here. |
wow. bragging about how much tail you get. who is that the last refuge for?
sigh... i don't even know why i'm in this argument. i don't know djsmnc from a hole in the ground, so i've got no reason to back him up, outside of the fact that he seemed to be a pretty nice guy with a solid strategy for handling situations that he is unable to change.
and i've got nothing against a good beej, except when it's one who throws around the word 'apologist' any chance he can get because it's the biggest word he knows and makes him sound all grown up and mature, and then follows it by 'i've shagged more k-girls than you!' |
Im not the one who started in on the insults and mom references. I didnt start bringing my real life relationships into the thread. When someone calls you lonely and sad based on internet ramblings, you just gotta fight back. You Knock my mom, I will knock your girlfriend. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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| Im not the one who started in on the insults and mom references. I didnt start bringing my real life relationships into the thread. When someone calls you lonely and sad based on internet ramblings, you just gotta fight back. You Knock my mom, I will knock your girlfriend. |
Why do you have to fight back? Why not just ignore it? Does it injure you in some profound way?
Quite a keen sense of justice you have there: "he did it to me, and even though it shouldn't matter to me and does no harm to me, I've just gotta get my revenge!" |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the Pedophile Now? Adjoshi. |
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| Came to Korea, got himself a local girlfriend, got his peepee wet for the first time in ten years ( maybe ever). |
That's not true. There was a Hispanic hooker that my Mexican coworkers introduced me to back in '97. It was payday, and she was charging $30 a pop. That would make it five years. |
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