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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ev wrote:
The reason why I was so confused was that my co-teacher tried to get me to sign another contract the other day - she put in some extra clauses about doing teaching plans and not being able to hit the kids (not that I would anyway) and she excluded the clause about how if you live in some remote areas you get paid an extra 100,000 per month, but the thing is - she told me herself that I'm eligible for it.

Today she was trying to convince me that I'm not out in the countryside. Then I replied, "Then why am I getting the extra 100,000 per month?" Her answer? None, she changes the subject.

I spoke to another teacher today and asked her what my co-teacher was saying about me. Apparently I've said that I hate this job/school. I'd hate to think what other things she's claiming I've said...


I don't know you and this is NOT meant as a flame.

You have been here for 2 weeks or so.
You have managed to burn your bridges and piss off your boss/co-worker(s).
You don't like Gimpo cause it's only a suburb and not in central seoul.

You have some serious issues to deal with on a personal level.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee. You're not home anymore.
The rules are different. The culture is different. The language is different. The food is different. The everything is different.

You can decide that this is a new adventure, time to learn the domestic rule book, buckle down and try to mend a few fences and rebuild some bridges or pack your bag, cut your losses and leave tomorrow (or you will end up spending a lot of time working for free).

You have chose the wrong time and place to pick fights over your contract. You appearently don't understand the nature of contracts here. It's NOT about the paper, it's about the relationship.

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/main/pubs/korea-en.asp is pretty good reading and pay attention to the part that says,
"Koreans see business less as a legally based interaction than a relationship. Consequently, there is a much weaker sense of law in Korean business relations than in international business. For many Koreans, a contract is part of the symbolism involved in beginning a relationship, and "beginning" is the important word. The contract thus is only as binding as the personal connection..."


Sorry to rain on your parade.
Spread your wings and fly or return to the nest.
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that for the level of difficulty you said you had, it's surprising that you would want to quit after 2 weeks. I'm also not surprised that your principal would give you the alcohol back, considering you basically said you don't want to work there. Sounds rather honest to me.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gimpo=country?? Shocked good grief.
West Seoul/Gimpo is a fine place to be located. You probably don't know it but commuting within Seoul can be hell and it really doesn't matter where you live...you're going to be commuting. I don't live in Seoul at all but I can still get to most places quicker than people I know who live in East Seoul.

It sounds like you've come out with guns firing for next to no reason. I suggest you re-evaluate your rash decisions and start thinking with a an open, relaxed mind set. I'd be stoked that I get an additional 100,000, yet get to live so close to Seoul but still don't have to deal with the s-hit of actually living in Seoul.
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Ev



Joined: 01 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, ok. I just read this post:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=64933

I now know I shouldn't complain. But since it's too late, I wonder when they'll stop thinking that I'll probably do a runner on them or something...
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As soon as you start teaching with enthusiasm and stop complaining.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man,

How did your school get wind that you wanted to leave, through the recruiter or did you complain to someone in the school?

You're niggling over a 20 minute bus ride that pays you an extra 100 grand. It sounds like you have *no idea* just how bad things can be when things don't go right here. If that's the worst of your problems, you really really should count your stars.

If I were you, as another poster said, I'd apologise, try to save face by turning it into some little white lie if you can, and try to start re-building some bridges. See your contract through and move in closer to the city next year.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you end up staying where you are, I advise you to buy a scooter. You can get a 50cc scooter for like 400,000 won, give or take. That will make the distance to the subway seem much less of an obstacle. That's what I did. Now, instead of walking down the street, so I can cross the street, then cross another one, then wait for a bus to drive me 15 minutes to a bus stop that's way out somewhere near Gimpo area, I can hop on my scooter and be close to Hongdae in about 10 minutes. Shaves a cool hour off any central Seoul trips I need to make.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
If you end up staying where you are, I advise you to buy a scooter. You can get a 50cc scooter for like 400,000 won, give or take. That will make the distance to the subway seem much less of an obstacle. That's what I did. Now, instead of walking down the street, so I can cross the street, then cross another one, then wait for a bus to drive me 15 minutes to a bus stop that's way out somewhere near Gimpo area, I can hop on my scooter and be close to Hongdae in about 10 minutes. Shaves a cool hour off any central Seoul trips I need to make.


Scooters---#1 cause of serious injury to foreigners in Korea.
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Ballentines even good whiskey?
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan The Chainsawman wrote:
Is Ballentines even good whiskey?


Well, the 30 year old (aged) bottle my mother in law gave me tastes pretty darn good Laughing .
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