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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:57 am    Post subject: Korean Pop Music Industry Reply with quote

What do you know about the Korean pop music industry? When I see the pop stars on TV, I just think they're so untalented as singers / musicians. It all looks like marketing to me. Try to sell some cds, posters and keychains. All that is needed is a cute face or a weird one. Korean pop music is to music what Hollywood is to the art of film - all gloss no substance, make a quick buck or 1000 won.

Are there any Korean pop stars that have lasted more than a year or two? Is making a living doing art frowned upon in this country?
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of them have catchy tunes. But yes, it's just a business, like back home. But I swear, whenever I watch these boy bands (or girl ones too), they can't dance worth sh!t. Not even close, and I can't say what they are doing is dancing, it's barely moving around.
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd really like to know some Korean singers / groups that are worth listening to. You know. Some talented people who are doing something serious.

The Korean film industry is making some very interesting films that are worth your time. I like Korean films.

How about in other musical genres? Are there any Koreans worth a listen? Maybe in Jazz? It looks like there is a real void in the music biz in Korea.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the general indie scene has some decent acts.. however anything in the korean charts is pretty much sh1te. john lennon once said there are only five songs, but in korea, there's only two- the soppy love ballad, and the wannabe-gangsta faux hip-pop tune featuring some guy with a lame attempt at facial hair and fubu gear, and a sexy girl going 'oohh baby i need you' in the chorus (which, incidentally, is ripped off from the black eyed peas).

anyway there are some good indie bands, rollercoaster are the most talented i think, deli spice are good too, as are asoto union/windy city, the last drunken tiger album was great too, ghetto bombs, nell, nastyona, thats about all i can think of now. slim pickings but i like the ones i mentioned here a lot.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
Some of them have catchy tunes. But yes, it's just a business, like back home. But I swear, whenever I watch these boy bands (or girl ones too), they can't dance worth *beep*. Not even close, and I can't say what they are doing is dancing, it's barely moving around.


Yeah, but you'd have a hard time dancing too if you were wearing 6 inch heels and had no muscle tone whatsoever. Wink
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dev wrote:
I'd really like to know some Korean singers / groups that are worth listening to. You know. Some talented people who are doing something serious.

The Korean film industry is making some very interesting films that are worth your time. I like Korean films.

How about in other musical genres? Are there any Koreans worth a listen? Maybe in Jazz? It looks like there is a real void in the music biz in Korea.


Yeah, Koreans are very proud of that. Ironically, the Korean films that are worth seeing tend to bomb at the boxoffice in Korea. Koreans generally prefer Hollywood style drivel, instead.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's difficult to say this music is bad without sounding like an old fart, but yes, most of it is truly awful and completely derivative. Someone with as much standing as E Hyori rips off Britney Spears (now, there's reaching for the top) and no one seems to care. Sometimes I think about the giant corpus of great classic rock in the west, and how pififul things are here; can anyone even possibly imagine a 'classic k-pop' station? Not even the hardest-core yay-for-Korea type brags about their music-- "You westerners only have Led Zeppelin, but we Koreans have Boa!"

I can think of only a few reasons. One, the visual performance and, coff, dancing seems more important than the audio product. Two, it's still a very young industry here. Three, music sharing is so endemic here that probably the best bands are underground or unsigned. There is some fairly decent live music around.

Ken:>
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doggyji



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Korean Pop Music Industry Reply with quote

Dev wrote:
What do you know about the Korean pop music industry? When I see the pop stars on TV, I just think they're so untalented as singers / musicians. It all looks like marketing to me. Try to sell some cds, posters and keychains. All that is needed is a cute face or a weird one. Korean pop music is to music what Hollywood is to the art of film - all gloss no substance, make a quick buck or 1000 won.

Lots of crap 'singers' on tv indeed but I think there are a good number of singers who know how to sing or make music. The popularity on the charts is far from reflecting the musicians' talents so you have to put some effort to find the ones worthwhile. On tv, I think if you watch these programs, you will find some ok to good musicians. 김윤아의 뮤직웨이브, 김동률의 포유, or 윤도현의 러브레터. At least, they all perform live on those shows. In fact, what you just said is no different from what your average Korean adult would think. I think in general serious music listeners eventually either turn to western music or dig the indie scene in Korea while still keeping in touch with decent K-pop occasionally you come across.

Dev wrote:
Are there any Korean pop stars that have lasted more than a year or two?

For one, I think BoA has been doing good and she's a talented idol. Very Happy

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
Sometimes I think about the giant corpus of great classic rock in the west, and how pififul things are here; can anyone even possibly imagine a 'classic k-pop' station? Not even the hardest-core yay-for-Korea type brags about their music-- "You westerners only have Led Zeppelin, but we Koreans have Boa!"

Classic Korean rock? Of course, there is. I can think of 신중현, 들국화, and 산울림 for very old and well-received rock musicians.

"You westerners only have Led Zeppelin, but we Koreans have Boa!"
Indeed, BoA's good. No comparison. What do you think, Troll Bait? Laughing
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where are the charts? in america you can go to www.billboard.com Where do you go to see the Korean charts?
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
It's difficult to say this music is bad without sounding like an old fart, but yes, most of it is truly awful and completely derivative. Someone with as much standing as E Hyori rips off Britney Spears (now, there's reaching for the top) and no one seems to care. Sometimes I think about the giant corpus of great classic rock in the west, and how pififul things are here; can anyone even possibly imagine a 'classic k-pop' station? Not even the hardest-core yay-for-Korea type brags about their music-- "You westerners only have Led Zeppelin, but we Koreans have Boa!"

I can think of only a few reasons. One, the visual performance and, coff, dancing seems more important than the audio product. Two, it's still a very young industry here. Three, music sharing is so endemic here that probably the best bands are underground or unsigned. There is some fairly decent live music around.

Ken:>


Speaking of Britney Spears and Boa, Britney Spears made Boa look like a rank amateur the time they both performed on the same TV show.
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LL Moonmanhead



Joined: 21 Mar 2005
Location: yo momma

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The korean 'music' industry is run by gangsters. FACT.
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stevieg4ever



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Location: London, England

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Korean Pop Music Industry Reply with quote

korea has a lot of good music imo. the problem is that you rarely hear it through the mainstream media. 서태지, 드렁큰타이거, 시비마스 are all worth checking out the pop music is the same as the us uk stuff. although the girls are way hotter lol (ses, fin kl, et all)


i have to confess that i only found out about the above bands through friends. after i left korea
Dev wrote:
What do you know about the Korean pop music industry? When I see the pop stars on TV, I just think they're so untalented as singers / musicians. It all looks like marketing to me. Try to sell some cds, posters and keychains. All that is needed is a cute face or a weird one. Korean pop music is to music what Hollywood is to the art of film - all gloss no substance, make a quick buck or 1000 won.

Are there any Korean pop stars that have lasted more than a year or two? Is making a living doing art frowned upon in this country?
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screw the pop stuff. But there is plenty of good music. Click the link in my signature for a great track.

I will be marrying the singer soon.

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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's getting very difficult to find music in modern pop. Entertainment is abundant, but for it to be masquerading as music is almost criminal.

냄비문화...
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sid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Berkshire, England

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Korean Pop Music Industry Reply with quote

doggyji wrote:
[ On tv, I think if you watch these programs, you will find some ok to good musicians. 김윤아의 뮤직웨이브, 김동률의 포유, or 윤도현의 러브레터. At least, they all perform live on those shows.


There's also a good live music show on one of the EBS channels called 공감 - no presenters, dancers, lighting etc, just one (or sometimes two) groups playing a selection of their work and talking about it to a small audience of fans. You can watch all the old shows on the web site www.ebs-space.co.kr

Edit: it's on TV at 10pm on Sat and Sun
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