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beebee23
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: Getting a public school job in SEOUL--how hard is it? |
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Hello forumers and friends,
I got placed in Korea through EPIK's program this year, but they gave me a little shanty town in the Province of Gangwon. Luckily I'm near a major city by bus, but I don't think I can take another year of this isolation. I'm a city person.
Anyway, I like working for the public school system as opposed to the Hagwon (though I've never worked for a Hagwon), so what is the likelyhood of getting employment in a Seoul public school next year after my contract is up with the office of education here in Gangwon?
I don't want to rely on EPIK to place me "randomnly" again. I want to have complete control on where I will live and work.
By next year's hiring date: My Qualifications:
-1 year teaching experience for the public school system here in S. Korea
- in Girl's middle and higschool.
-CTESOL Certification--- over 100+ hours
-BA degree (American University)
With the above mentioned, do I have a shot at a public school as a Native speaker from America?
THANKS EVERYONE!
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Getting a public school job in SEOUL--how hard is it? |
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| beebee23 wrote: |
Hello forumers and friends,
I got placed in Korea through EPIK's program this year, but they gave me a little shanty town in the Province of Gangwon. Luckily I'm near the capital by bus, but I don't think I can take another year of this isolation. I'm a city person.
Anyway, I like working for the public school system as opposed to the Hagwon (though I've never worked for a Hagwon), so what is the likelyhood of getting employment in a Seoul public school next year after my contract is up with the office of education here in Gangwon?
I don't want to rely on EPIK to place me "randomnly" again. I want to have complete control on where I will live and work.
By next year's hiring date: My Qualifications:
-1 year teaching experience for the public school system here in S. Korea
- in Girl's middle and higschool.
-CTESOL Certification--- over 100+ hours
-BA degree (American University)
With the above mentioned, do I have a shot at a public school as a Native speaker from America?
THANKS EVERYONE! |
With a year under your belt in a public school you can just about pick and choose your location.
I assume that you just got here with the EPIK program. With 10 days or so under your belt in a public school, perhaps you should sit back, relax, get to know the country and your surroundings and do some networking.
Moving up the food chain here is all about the networking. It's who you know. You have a year for prospecting. Relax, take a deep breath and settle in.
I think you are trying to put the cart before the horse and you don't have the horse yet.
Next March you should be looking hard but by then you should have met some of the other public school teachers in other districts and from your weekend trips to the big city. They will let you know what good schools are looking (cause they are heading home) and which schools are a pain and should be avoided.
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I recommend going through a recruiter, despite what most people think. WorkNPlay is great, and many other big name recruiters have the info you need for public school positions. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| The best public school jobs are rarely advertised. Listen to ttompatz and meet people. That's how you will get a better job. The best jobs rarely come open and they are easy to fill so there is no need for advertising which means a recruiter will not even know about it. |
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passport220
Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I don�t have the information about the Seoul school district (SMOE?). However, I applied for my EPIK public school position through a recruiter. This was after the closing date to apply directly to the EPIK had passed. My recruiter gave me a choice of 5 different locations (some small villages and one city of 275K). I picked the larger city and that is where I was placed. I am not sure if it is possible if you apply directly to EPIK, but if it is important to you I recommend that you just tell EPIK up front. If they can not oblige you, take a pass. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| I recommend going through a recruiter, despite what most people think. WorkNPlay is great, and many other big name recruiters have the info you need for public school positions. |
Geat way for a newbie to get over here... SUCKS if you are here and have some contacts.
There are many better deals than you will find through a recruiter if you are here and have done any kind of networking during your year.
PERKS lad, PERKS...... network your axx off....
it's all about who you know (and who knows you). |
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beebee23
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:41 am Post subject: Hello. |
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Thanks.
Only, if I want to try to live in Seoul, I would assume that working for a Public School is the better way to go than a Hagwon?
Thanks for the advice everyone, too.
SOJU!! |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: Re: Hello. |
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| beebee23 wrote: |
Thanks.
Only, if I want to try to live in Seoul, I would assume that working for a Public School is the better way to go than a Hagwon?
Thanks for the advice everyone, too.
SOJU!! |
Public schools are only better if you:
like to get paid,
not have to worry about pension,
not have to worry about medical insurance,
not worry about your severance,
not worry about your airfare,
not get screwed on your holidays,
and work fewer than 120 classes per month.
Otherwise, a hakwan is the best choice.  |
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beebee23
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: lol |
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lol.
I posted another thread, and the other post'er said that all of the Hagwons are good in Seoul? Suspicion or is it somewhat plausible?
Thanks again. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: Re: lol |
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| beebee23 wrote: |
lol.
I posted another thread, and the other post'er said that all of the Hagwons are good in Seoul? Suspicion or is it somewhat plausible?
Thanks again. |
That was me and you missed the final comment in that post... I highlighted it in red for your convenience. |
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beebee23
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: lol |
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| lol. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Geat way for a newbie to get over here... SUCKS if you are here and have some contacts.
There are many better deals than you will find through a recruiter if you are here and have done any kind of networking during your year. |
If you are seeking a hagwon job, then recruiters do suck. If you go through a good recruiter that is contracted by SMOE to find public school teachers, it doesn't matter. The pay, the work hours, the vacation time and everything else is the same with SMOE if you go through a recruiter or you don't. You can negotiate higher pay with SMOE since they do interviewing (even if you initially go through a recruiter). |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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Getting a public school job in seoul area is easy.....
Recruiters have a load of them waiting. Just pick and choose.
or go round schools personally if you want. |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Getting a public school job in SEOUL--how hard is it? |
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| beebee23 wrote: |
Hello forumers and friends,
I got placed in Korea through EPIK's program this year, but they gave me a little shanty town in the Province of Gangwon. Luckily I'm near the capital by bus, but I don't think I can take another year of this isolation. I'm a city person.
Anyway, I like working for the public school system as opposed to the Hagwon (though I've never worked for a Hagwon), so what is the likelyhood of getting employment in a Seoul public school next year after my contract is up with the office of education here in Gangwon?
I don't want to rely on EPIK to place me "randomnly" again. I want to have complete control on where I will live and work.
By next year's hiring date: My Qualifications:
-1 year teaching experience for the public school system here in S. Korea
- in Girl's middle and higschool.
-CTESOL Certification--- over 100+ hours
-BA degree (American University)
With the above mentioned, do I have a shot at a public school as a Native speaker from America?
THANKS EVERYONE! |
With a year under your belt in a public school you can just about pick and choose your location.
I assume that you just got here with the EPIK program. With 10 days or so under your belt in a public school, perhaps you should sit back, relax, get to know the country and your surroundings and do some networking.
Moving up the food chain here is all about the networking. It's who you know. You have a year for prospecting. Relax, take a deep breath and settle in.
I think you are trying to put the cart before the horse and you don't have the horse yet.
Next March you should be looking hard but by then you should have met some of the other public school teachers in other districts and from your weekend trips to the big city. They will let you know what good schools are looking (cause they are heading home) and which schools are a pain and should be avoided.
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I have never relied/expected to get a job with the help of others. For some reason that has never happened for me. I have always gotten jobs on my own merit.
I am now in the best position/situation I've been in since coming to S. Korea.
I got myself in this position/situation, I do not owe anybody anything.
DON'T rely/expect others to help you on the ROK! |
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