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ShaneM
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| Its simply more powerful. Everytime they build a new particle accelerator this same article comes out. |
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kato

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Location: Tejas
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| "The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance." |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| "The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance." |
But that's not a googolplex. And you're discounting the portal to hell factor. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| kato wrote: |
| "The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance." |
But that's not a googolplex. And you're discounting the portal to hell factor. |
וְיָצָאתָ אֶל-גֵּיא בֶן-הִנֹּם אֲשֶׁר פֶּתַח שַׁעַר החרסות (הַחַרְסִית) וְקָרָאתָ שָּׁם אֶת-הַדְּבָרִים אֲשֶׁר-אֲדַבֵּר אֵלֶיךָ: וְאָמַרְתָּ שִׁמְעוּ דְבַר-יְהוָה מַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה וְיֹשְׁבֵי יְרוּשָׁלִָם כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל הִנְנִי מֵבִיא רָעָה עַל-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה אֲשֶׁר כָּל-שֹׁמְעָהּ, תִּצַּלְנָה אָזְנָיו: יַעַן אֲשֶׁר עֲזָבֻנִי וַיְנַכְּרוּ אֶת-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה וַיְקַטְּרוּ-בוֹ לֵאלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים, אֲשֶׁר לֹא-יְדָעוּם הֵמָּה וַאֲבוֹתֵיהֶם וּמַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה וּמָלְאוּ אֶת-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה דַּם נְקִיִּם: וּבָנוּ אֶת-בָּמוֹת הַבַּעַל לִשְׂרֹף אֶת-בְּנֵיהֶם בָּאֵשׁ עֹלוֹת לַבָּעַל אֲשֶׁר לֹא-צִוִּיתִי וְלֹא דִבַּרְתִּי וְלֹא עָלְתָה עַל-לִבִּי: לָכֵן הִנֵּה-יָמִים בָּאִים, נְאֻם-יְהוָה וְלֹא-יִקָּרֵא לַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה עוֹד הַתֹּפֶת וְגֵיא בֶן-הִנֹּם כִּי אִם-גֵּיא הַהֲרֵגָה: וּבַקֹּתִי אֶת-עֲצַת יְהוּדָה וִירוּשָׁלִַם בַּמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה וְהִפַּלְתִּים בַּחֶרֶב לִפְנֵי אֹיְבֵיהֶם וּבְיַד מְבַקְשֵׁי נַפְשָׁם וְנָתַתִּי אֶת-נִבְלָתָם לְמַאֲכָל לְעוֹף הַשָּׁמַיִם וּלְבֶהֱמַת הָאָרֶץ: וְשַׂמְתִּי אֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת לְשַׁמָּה וְלִשְׁרֵקָה כֹּל עֹבֵר עָלֶיהָ יִשֹּׁם וְיִשְׁרֹק עַל-כָּל-מַכֹּתֶהָ: וְהַאֲכַלְתִּים אֶת-בְּשַׂר בְּנֵיהֶם וְאֵת בְּשַׂר בְּנֹתֵיהֶם וְאִישׁ בְּשַׂר-רֵעֵהוּ יֹאכֵלוּ בְּמָצוֹר וּבְמָצוֹק אֲשֶׁר יָצִיקוּ לָהֶם אֹיְבֵיהֶם וּמְבַקְשֵׁי נַפְשָׁם: וְשָׁבַרְתָּ הַבַּקְבֻּק לְעֵינֵי הָאֲנָשִׁים הַהֹלְכִים אוֹתָךְ: וְאָמַרְתָּ אֲלֵיהֶם כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת כָּכָה אֶשְׁבֹּר אֶת-הָעָם הַזֶּה וְאֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת כַּאֲשֶׁר יִשְׁבֹּר אֶת-כְּלִי הַיּוֹצֵר אֲשֶׁר לֹא-יוּכַל לְהֵרָפֵה עוֹד וּבְתֹפֶת יִקְבְּרוּ מֵאֵין מָקוֹם לִקְבּוֹר: כֵּן-אֶעֱשֶׂה לַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה נְאֻם-יְהוָה וּלְיוֹשְׁבָיו וְלָתֵת אֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת כְּתֹפֶת: וְהָיוּ בָּתֵּי יְרוּשָׁלִַם וּבָתֵּי מַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה כִּמְקוֹם הַתֹּפֶת הַטְּמֵאִים לְכֹל הַבָּתִּים אֲשֶׁר קִטְּרוּ עַל-גַּגֹּתֵיהֶם לְכֹל צְבָא הַשָּׁמַיִם וְהַסֵּךְ נְסָכִים לֵאלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים: וַיָּבֹא יִרְמְיָהוּ מֵהַתֹּפֶת אֲשֶׁר שְׁלָחוֹ יְהוָה שָׁם לְהִנָּבֵא וַיַּעֲמֹד בַּחֲצַר בֵּית-יְהוָה וַיֹּאמֶר אֶל-כָּל-הָעָם: כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל הִנְנִי מֵבִי אֶל-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת וְעַל-כָּל-עָרֶיהָ אֵת כָּל-הָרָעָה אֲשֶׁר דִּבַּרְתִּי עָלֶיהָ: כִּי הִקְשׁוּ אֶת-עָרְפָּם לְבִלְתִּי שְׁמוֹעַ אֶת-דְּבָרָי |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| it's the writing on the wall!!! i mean, on the forum!!! |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hypothesis: it will pry open the Gates of Hell and evil shall be set loose upon the world.
Let's fire her up! |
That would be DooM!!
You can help! |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone catch "End Day" on Discovery Channel a few months ago? This was one of the scenarios they put together. |
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numazawa

Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: The Concrete Barnyard
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| kato wrote: |
| "The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance." |
Gotta be in it to win it! |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone catch "End Day" on Discovery Channel a few months ago? This was one of the scenarios they put together. |
Is it predicted to be quick and painless or is everyone going to scrambling away from the black hole/lethal portal as their cells are gradually ripped from their bodies?
It'll be all X-Men 3 up in there, Jean Grey going Dark Phoenix on some homies. We need to find Wolverine and have him ready to go Wolvie Berserk Style� on some vortex business. He'd claw it to smithereens.
edit: Actually it would be really cool if the black hole was big enough to suck up like half the Earth, but not the whole thing. I'm pretty sure we'd still be screwed, but that would be one awesome cliff to look down from. |
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PaperTiger

Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: Ulaanbataar
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| I don't suppose they're going to conduct the experiment in early 2007 with the help of a guy named Gordon Freeman....that guy will do anything for a media spot these days. |
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re:cursive
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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I've done a bit of reading about this CERN facility and it's all fairly jaw dropping. Amazing technology and resourcefulness. The thing is that they've been doing all these experiments and building these accelerators searching for various particles and proof of the TOE etc. and as yet haven't found what they are looking for. It's all very interesting but when will they call it quits?
Kind of like those scientists underground looking for evidence of dark matter. No results for decades but still they look every day. If the hypothetical particles they are looking for don't actually exist will they just keep on looking forever? Building bigger and bigger machines to find nothing?
I respect their level of dedication.
Another question is who gets the Nobel prize if something is actually discovered? The number of scientists involved in the project is huge. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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וְיָצָאתָ אֶל-גֵּיא בֶן-הִנֹּם אֲשֶׁר פֶּתַח שַׁעַר החרסות (הַחַרְסִית) וְקָרָאתָ שָּׁם אֶת-הַדְּבָרִים אֲשֶׁר-אֲדַבֵּר אֵלֶיךָ: וְאָמַרְתָּ שִׁמְעוּ דְבַר-יְהוָה מַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה וְיֹשְׁבֵי יְרוּשָׁלִָם כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל הִנְנִי מֵבִיא רָעָה עַל-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה אֲשֶׁר כָּל-שֹׁמְעָהּ, תִּצַּלְנָה אָזְנָיו: יַעַן אֲשֶׁר עֲזָבֻנִי וַיְנַכְּרוּ אֶת-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה וַיְקַטְּרוּ-בוֹ לֵאלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים, אֲשֶׁר לֹא-יְדָעוּם הֵמָּה וַאֲבוֹתֵיהֶם וּמַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה וּמָלְאוּ אֶת-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה דַּם נְקִיִּם: וּבָנוּ אֶת-בָּמוֹת הַבַּעַל לִשְׂרֹף אֶת-בְּנֵיהֶם בָּאֵשׁ עֹלוֹת לַבָּעַל אֲשֶׁר לֹא-צִוִּיתִי וְלֹא דִבַּרְתִּי וְלֹא עָלְתָה עַל-לִבִּי: לָכֵן הִנֵּה-יָמִים בָּאִים, נְאֻם-יְהוָה וְלֹא-יִקָּרֵא לַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה עוֹד הַתֹּפֶת וְגֵיא בֶן-הִנֹּם כִּי אִם-גֵּיא הַהֲרֵגָה: וּבַקֹּתִי אֶת-עֲצַת יְהוּדָה וִירוּשָׁלִַם בַּמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה וְהִפַּלְתִּים בַּחֶרֶב לִפְנֵי אֹיְבֵיהֶם וּבְיַד מְבַקְשֵׁי נַפְשָׁם וְנָתַתִּי אֶת-נִבְלָתָם לְמַאֲכָל לְעוֹף הַשָּׁמַיִם וּלְבֶהֱמַת הָאָרֶץ: וְשַׂמְתִּי אֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת לְשַׁמָּה וְלִשְׁרֵקָה כֹּל עֹבֵר עָלֶיהָ יִשֹּׁם וְיִשְׁרֹק עַל-כָּל-מַכֹּתֶהָ: וְהַאֲכַלְתִּים אֶת-בְּשַׂר בְּנֵיהֶם וְאֵת בְּשַׂר בְּנֹתֵיהֶם וְאִישׁ בְּשַׂר-רֵעֵהוּ יֹאכֵלוּ בְּמָצוֹר וּבְמָצוֹק אֲשֶׁר יָצִיקוּ לָהֶם אֹיְבֵיהֶם וּמְבַקְשֵׁי נַפְשָׁם: וְשָׁבַרְתָּ הַבַּקְבֻּק לְעֵינֵי הָאֲנָשִׁים הַהֹלְכִים אוֹתָךְ: וְאָמַרְתָּ אֲלֵיהֶם כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת כָּכָה אֶשְׁבֹּר אֶת-הָעָם הַזֶּה וְאֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת כַּאֲשֶׁר יִשְׁבֹּר אֶת-כְּלִי הַיּוֹצֵר אֲשֶׁר לֹא-יוּכַל לְהֵרָפֵה עוֹד וּבְתֹפֶת יִקְבְּרוּ מֵאֵין מָקוֹם לִקְבּוֹר: כֵּן-אֶעֱשֶׂה לַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה נְאֻם-יְהוָה וּלְיוֹשְׁבָיו וְלָתֵת אֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת כְּתֹפֶת: וְהָיוּ בָּתֵּי יְרוּשָׁלִַם וּבָתֵּי מַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה כִּמְקוֹם הַתֹּפֶת הַטְּמֵאִים לְכֹל הַבָּתִּים אֲשֶׁר קִטְּרוּ עַל-גַּגֹּתֵיהֶם לְכֹל צְבָא הַשָּׁמַיִם וְהַסֵּךְ נְסָכִים לֵאלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים: וַיָּבֹא יִרְמְיָהוּ מֵהַתֹּפֶת אֲשֶׁר שְׁלָחוֹ יְהוָה שָׁם לְהִנָּבֵא וַיַּעֲמֹד בַּחֲצַר בֵּית-יְהוָה וַיֹּאמֶר אֶל-כָּל-הָעָם: כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל הִנְנִי מֵבִי אֶל-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת וְעַל-כָּל-עָרֶיהָ אֵת כָּל-הָרָעָה אֲשֶׁר דִּבַּרְתִּי עָלֶיהָ: כִּי הִקְשׁוּ אֶת-עָרְפָּם לְבִלְתִּי שְׁמוֹעַ אֶת-דְּבָרָי |
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simpleminds

Joined: 04 May 2006
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I've done a bit of reading about this CERN facility and it's all fairly jaw dropping. Amazing technology and resourcefulness. The thing is that they've been doing all these experiments and building these accelerators searching for various particles and proof of the TOE etc. and as yet haven't found what they are looking for. It's all very interesting but when will they call it quits?
Kind of like those scientists underground looking for evidence of dark matter. No results for decades but still they look every day. If the hypothetical particles they are looking for don't actually exist will they just keep on looking forever? Building bigger and bigger machines to find nothing?
I respect their level of dedication.
Another question is who gets the Nobel prize if something is actually discovered? The number of scientists involved in the project is huge. |
Hehee. It's all politics, anyway.
As for dedication, its for thankless work, when you think about it.
I thought dark matter existed. I remember reading about it in Time mag how scientists were able to detect it; it pertained to the article about the "Dark Ages" in the universe; there was so much of this cosmic dark matter hanging around it created the stars and company in our universe today.
Now if these people are bent on harnessing anti-matter, I'll be worried. Until then, it looks like we'll destroy ourselves by another means. Unless an asteriod comes along, that is.  |
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re:cursive
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| I thought dark matter existed. I remember reading about it in Time mag how scientists were able to detect it; it pertained to the article about the "Dark Ages" in the universe; there was so much of this cosmic dark matter hanging around it created the stars and company in our universe today. |
As far as I am aware, dark matter is still very much a theoretical thing. Like a lot of modern day science, it helps fill the gaps and brings everything into a nice neat little package but as yet, it is unproven. I don't think anyone or any machine has either seen or detected direct signs of the activity of anti matter. It's pretty much one of the hypothetical deities (or devils) of physics at the moment.
I may be wrong though. I'm not exactly keeping up with this stuff on a daily basis.
What about anti-data/ghosts in the internet? There's an interesting concept.
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numazawa

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וְיָצָאתָ אֶל-גֵּיא בֶן-הִנֹּם אֲשֶׁר פֶּתַח שַׁעַר החרסות (הַחַרְסִית) וְקָרָאתָ שָּׁם אֶת-הַדְּבָרִים אֲשֶׁר-אֲדַבֵּר אֵלֶיךָ: וְאָמַרְתָּ שִׁמְעוּ דְבַר-יְהוָה מַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה וְיֹשְׁבֵי יְרוּשָׁלִָם כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל הִנְנִי מֵבִיא רָעָה עַל-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה אֲשֶׁר כָּל-שֹׁמְעָהּ, תִּצַּלְנָה אָזְנָיו: יַעַן אֲשֶׁר עֲזָבֻנִי וַיְנַכְּרוּ אֶת-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה וַיְקַטְּרוּ-בוֹ לֵאלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים, אֲשֶׁר לֹא-יְדָעוּם הֵמָּה וַאֲבוֹתֵיהֶם וּמַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה וּמָלְאוּ אֶת-הַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה דַּם נְקִיִּם: וּבָנוּ אֶת-בָּמוֹת הַבַּעַל לִשְׂרֹף אֶת-בְּנֵיהֶם בָּאֵשׁ עֹלוֹת לַבָּעַל אֲשֶׁר לֹא-צִוִּיתִי וְלֹא דִבַּרְתִּי וְלֹא עָלְתָה עַל-לִבִּי: לָכֵן הִנֵּה-יָמִים בָּאִים, נְאֻם-יְהוָה וְלֹא-יִקָּרֵא לַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה עוֹד הַתֹּפֶת וְגֵיא בֶן-הִנֹּם כִּי אִם-גֵּיא הַהֲרֵגָה: וּבַקֹּתִי אֶת-עֲצַת יְהוּדָה וִירוּשָׁלִַם בַּמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה וְהִפַּלְתִּים בַּחֶרֶב לִפְנֵי אֹיְבֵיהֶם וּבְיַד מְבַקְשֵׁי נַפְשָׁם וְנָתַתִּי אֶת-נִבְלָתָם לְמַאֲכָל לְעוֹף הַשָּׁמַיִם וּלְבֶהֱמַת הָאָרֶץ: וְשַׂמְתִּי אֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת לְשַׁמָּה וְלִשְׁרֵקָה כֹּל עֹבֵר עָלֶיהָ יִשֹּׁם וְיִשְׁרֹק עַל-כָּל-מַכֹּתֶהָ: וְהַאֲכַלְתִּים אֶת-בְּשַׂר בְּנֵיהֶם וְאֵת בְּשַׂר בְּנֹתֵיהֶם וְאִישׁ בְּשַׂר-רֵעֵהוּ יֹאכֵלוּ בְּמָצוֹר וּבְמָצוֹק אֲשֶׁר יָצִיקוּ לָהֶם אֹיְבֵיהֶם וּמְבַקְשֵׁי נַפְשָׁם: וְשָׁבַרְתָּ הַבַּקְבֻּק לְעֵינֵי הָאֲנָשִׁים הַהֹלְכִים אוֹתָךְ: וְאָמַרְתָּ אֲלֵיהֶם כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת כָּכָה אֶשְׁבֹּר אֶת-הָעָם הַזֶּה וְאֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת כַּאֲשֶׁר יִשְׁבֹּר אֶת-כְּלִי הַיּוֹצֵר אֲשֶׁר לֹא-יוּכַל לְהֵרָפֵה עוֹד וּבְתֹפֶת יִקְבְּרוּ מֵאֵין מָקוֹם לִקְבּוֹר: כֵּן-אֶעֱשֶׂה לַמָּקוֹם הַזֶּה נְאֻם-יְהוָה וּלְיוֹשְׁבָיו וְלָתֵת אֶת-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת כְּתֹפֶת: וְהָיוּ בָּתֵּי יְרוּשָׁלִַם וּבָתֵּי מַלְכֵי יְהוּדָה כִּמְקוֹם הַתֹּפֶת הַטְּמֵאִים לְכֹל הַבָּתִּים אֲשֶׁר קִטְּרוּ עַל-גַּגֹּתֵיהֶם לְכֹל צְבָא הַשָּׁמַיִם וְהַסֵּךְ נְסָכִים לֵאלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים: וַיָּבֹא יִרְמְיָהוּ מֵהַתֹּפֶת אֲשֶׁר שְׁלָחוֹ יְהוָה שָׁם לְהִנָּבֵא וַיַּעֲמֹד בַּחֲצַר בֵּית-יְהוָה וַיֹּאמֶר אֶל-כָּל-הָעָם: כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל הִנְנִי מֵבִי אֶל-הָעִיר הַזֹּאת וְעַל-כָּל-עָרֶיהָ אֵת כָּל-הָרָעָה אֲשֶׁר דִּבַּרְתִּי עָלֶיהָ: כִּי הִקְשׁוּ אֶת-עָרְפָּם לְבִלְתִּי שְׁמוֹעַ אֶת-דְּבָרָי |
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