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huffdaddy
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TheFonz
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: North Georgia
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Where are my choices for board games and major entities such as Disney?
Disney and D & D split my vote
edit: Oh you put an other in there. Good work. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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I voted "Politician." I have seen many peaceful pro-life demonstrations and I know that all it takes is one "heathenistic liberal politician" to boil the blood of the self-appointed defenders of the unborn.
Idiot over-sensitive Christians are just as bad as idiot over-sensitive Muslims are just as bad as idiot over-sensitive Jews...
When is everyone going to learn to save themselves and let other people save themselves? |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| TheFonz wrote: |
Where are my choices for board games and major entities such as Disney?
Disney and D & D split my vote |
The Fonz? D & D? What decade are you in?  |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| you forgot those Jersey Women that Ann Coulter demonized! |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Today: Christians protest ______________ |
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Wow. How many flags and cars did they burn? Maybe they shot a random novellist or movie producer to hammer their point home. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: Today: Christians protest ______________ |
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Wow. How many flags and cars did they burn? Maybe they shot a random novellist or movie producer to hammer their point home. |
While fundamentalist Islam is significantly worse and more dangerous than the Christian fundamentalism, the have shot abortion doctors and burned books. |
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nasigoreng
Joined: 14 May 2004
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If you choose to focus on what Christians protest then it proves that you have a double standard regarding free speech i.e. people are only free to say things you like.
Why don't you instead focus on how they protest. In the examples given, there were no incidences of violence, arson, or murder.
Consider how muslims protest:
* Author Salman Rushdie goes into hiding to escape death sentence by Iranian Ayatollah.
*Invasion of Iraq: Muslim youth group threatens to conduct hotel sweeps for foreigners and expell them from the country.
*Artist stabbed to death in the streets of Denmark for making a documentary film critical of Islam.
*Caricatures of Muhammad: Danish embassy ransacked. In Jakarta, protesters attack the American embassy by throwing bottles claiming the caricatures originated from the US.
* Pope's quotation of historical event:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367507-details/Papal+assassin+warns+Pope+Benedict+his+'life+is+in+danger'+if+he+visits+Turkey/article.do |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| nasigoreng wrote: |
Consider how muslims protest:
*Invasion of Iraq: Muslim youth group threatens to conduct hotel sweeps for foreigners and expell them from the country.
*Artist stabbed to death in the streets of Denmark for making a documentary film critical of Islam.
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1. Eh, keyword: invasion. Are you really using this one as an example??
2. It was the Netherlands, not Denmark.
3. next time you provide a long ass link i suggest you do this:
[url= your website] this is how you do it[/url]
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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The nice folks at Westboro Baptist Church protesting at soldiers' funerals:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1755712,00.html
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Anti-gay church hounds military funerals
� US states pass laws to try to limit demonstrations
� Preacher damns soldiers defending 'fag nation'
Julian Borger in Washington
Tuesday April 18, 2006
The Guardian
New laws have been passed in the United States to counter the activities of a bizarre church that has been disrupting military funerals with anti-gay protests on the grounds that the soldiers died fighting for a land that tolerates homosexuality.
Since last year, the Westboro Baptist church, based in Topeka, Kansas, has been picketing funerals of soldiers killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, waving signs saying, "Thank God for Dead Soldiers", "Thank God for IEDs [improvised explosive devices - roadside bombs]", and "God Hates Cripple Soldiers", while yelling that dead US troops will rot in hell.
The church - which consists almost exclusively of Fred Phelps, a 76-year-old preacher, and 75 members of his extended family - is definitely not a peace movement. Rather, it celebrates the violent deaths of soldiers and marines who died, it says, defending a licentious nation.
Today, it is planning to picket the funeral of an army sergeant, Daniel Sesker, from Ogden, Iowa, who was killed by a roadside bomb on April 6, near Tikrit.
"Where in God's name did he get the idea that it was noble to fight in a fag army for a fag nation that's on the short path to eternal destruction?" asks the church's website, www.godhatesfags.com. "That's right: his parents, his family, his 'friends', his state and his country; they are to blame for the fact that Sesker is now in a million pieces, the appropriate punishment for their filthy manner of life."
Horrified at the church's activities, nine states have approved laws that impose restrictions on demonstrations at funerals and burials. More than 20 other states are considering similar legislation, and the US Congress will be asked to consider possible federal laws next month.
None of the new laws involves an outright ban on funeral protests, as that would clash with the constitution's first amendment, guaranteeing free speech. Instead, most stipulate that demonstrators must stay a certain distance from a funeral, and limit their protests to an hour before and an hour after the ceremony. Some laws prohibit the display of "any visual image that conveys fighting words".
Similar laws have been passed in the past to stop anti-abortion protests outside private homes or family planning clinics, and have survived supreme court challenges. The Westboro Baptist church says its constitutional rights are being trampled by the new laws, and claims it is thinking of ways to challenge them.
It claims to have conducted 25,000 pickets since its formation in 1991, almost all of them anti-gay. Mr Phelps first drew national attention when he protested at the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a gay man beaten to death in Wyoming in 1998.
The church reckons its spends $250,000 (�140,000) a year on air fares and other protest expenses. The bills are paid by the family, which includes 10 lawyers among Mr Phelps's 13 children. Three of his offspring have broken ties with the family. One, his daughter Dortha, told the Knight Ridder news agency: "I felt like I was being controlled, and I didn't have any freedom."
Before the new laws were passed, several thousand bikers, many of them Vietnam veterans, formed a group calling itself the Patriot Guard Riders, to attend military funerals and form a cordon around the protesters to shield them from view of the mourners, and to drown out their shouts by revving their engines.
Mr Phelps seems to relish the fury he stirs. He likes to quote from the Gospel according to St Luke: "Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the son of man's sake."
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: re: |
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| canuckistan wrote: |
The nice folks at Westboro Baptist Church protesting at soldiers' funerals:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1755712,00.html
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Anti-gay church hounds military funerals
� US states pass laws to try to limit demonstrations
� Preacher damns soldiers defending '*beep* nation'
Julian Borger in Washington
Tuesday April 18, 2006
The Guardian
New laws have been passed in the United States to counter the activities of a bizarre church that has been disrupting military funerals with anti-gay protests on the grounds that the soldiers died fighting for a land that tolerates homosexuality.
Since last year, the Westboro Baptist church, based in Topeka, Kansas, has been picketing funerals of soldiers killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, waving signs saying, "Thank God for Dead Soldiers", "Thank God for IEDs [improvised explosive devices - roadside bombs]", and "God Hates Cripple Soldiers", while yelling that dead US troops will rot in hell.
The church - which consists almost exclusively of Fred Phelps, a 76-year-old preacher, and 75 members of his extended family - is definitely not a peace movement. Rather, it celebrates the violent deaths of soldiers and marines who died, it says, defending a licentious nation.
Today, it is planning to picket the funeral of an army sergeant, Daniel Sesker, from Ogden, Iowa, who was killed by a roadside bomb on April 6, near Tikrit.
"Where in God's name did he get the idea that it was noble to fight in a *beep* army for a *beep* nation that's on the short path to eternal destruction?" asks the church's website, www.godhatesfags.com. "That's right: his parents, his family, his 'friends', his state and his country; they are to blame for the fact that Sesker is now in a million pieces, the appropriate punishment for their filthy manner of life."
Horrified at the church's activities, nine states have approved laws that impose restrictions on demonstrations at funerals and burials. More than 20 other states are considering similar legislation, and the US Congress will be asked to consider possible federal laws next month.
None of the new laws involves an outright ban on funeral protests, as that would clash with the constitution's first amendment, guaranteeing free speech. Instead, most stipulate that demonstrators must stay a certain distance from a funeral, and limit their protests to an hour before and an hour after the ceremony. Some laws prohibit the display of "any visual image that conveys fighting words".
Similar laws have been passed in the past to stop anti-abortion protests outside private homes or family planning clinics, and have survived supreme court challenges. The Westboro Baptist church says its constitutional rights are being trampled by the new laws, and claims it is thinking of ways to challenge them.
It claims to have conducted 25,000 pickets since its formation in 1991, almost all of them anti-gay. Mr Phelps first drew national attention when he protested at the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a gay man beaten to death in Wyoming in 1998.
The church reckons its spends $250,000 (�140,000) a year on air fares and other protest expenses. The bills are paid by the family, which includes 10 lawyers among Mr Phelps's 13 children. Three of his offspring have broken ties with the family. One, his daughter Dortha, told the Knight Ridder news agency: "I felt like I was being controlled, and I didn't have any freedom."
Before the new laws were passed, several thousand bikers, many of them Vietnam veterans, formed a group calling itself the Patriot Guard Riders, to attend military funerals and form a cordon around the protesters to shield them from view of the mourners, and to drown out their shouts by revving their engines.
Mr Phelps seems to relish the fury he stirs. He likes to quote from the Gospel according to St Luke: "Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the son of man's sake."
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Westboro is hardly representative of most Christians. I would go so far as to say they are not Christian. Just because someone calls themself something doesn't mean they fit the description.
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: re: |
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Just because someone calls themself something doesn't mean they fit the description.
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See radical and violent 'Muslims' |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Today: Christians protest ______________ |
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Wow. How many flags and cars did they burn? Maybe they shot a random novellist or movie producer to hammer their point home. |
While fundamentalist Islam is significantly worse and more dangerous than the Christian fundamentalism, the have shot abortion doctors and burned books. |
doctors?? Is that plural? Wow. So, they shot 2 doctors. Was that with water guns or paint ball guns? |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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In fairness, abortion doctors have been shot at, with real bullets, and threatened or protested against. We've also forgotten the nuts who have protested John Lennon, backwards masking, playing cards, dancing, and rock music generally. I volunteered at a missions university once, and there were some really nice people and some people who reminded me of SNL's church lady - "Satan's tool!"
The difference, at least it seems to me, is that these fundamentalists or extremists do not have either mass numbers or the backing of major church leaders or organizations. When was the last time the shah of Repressistan made a public speech or wrote a statement saying, 'why can't we all live in peace? why can't we respect our differences? we want to say that we don't authorize or condone these terrorists or their actions.' It doesn't happen.
But p.s. Jessica Alba is hot.
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Today: Christians protest ______________ |
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| Junior wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
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Wow. How many flags and cars did they burn? Maybe they shot a random novellist or movie producer to hammer their point home. |
While fundamentalist Islam is significantly worse and more dangerous than the Christian fundamentalism, the have shot abortion doctors and burned books. |
doctors?? Is that plural? Wow. So, they shot 2 doctors. Was that with water guns or paint ball guns? |
A little dated, but valid nonetheless.
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/9845,gonnerman,1077,1.html
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The Terrorist Campaign Against Abortion
How violent extremists promote a strategy of maiming and murdering clinic workers that is shrinking women's access to abortion around the country
by Jennifer Gonnerman
November 3 - 9, 1998
Emily Lyons's legs: A nail-packed bomb exploded next to Emily, a nurse, as she walked into work at the New Woman All Women Health Care clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, on January 29, 1998. The blast shattered Emily's left leg and ripped the skin off her shi
Melissa Springer
Barnett A. Slepian knew his life was in danger. So the doctor worked in an abortion clinic built like a fortress, with no windows and plenty of surveillance cameras. Still, he is dead. Shortly after 10 p.m. on October 23, a sniper shot the obstetrician-gynecologist with a high-powered rifle as he stood in the kitchen of his home outside Buffalo, New York, chatting with his wife and 15-year-old son.
Slepian, 52, is the latest victim in a long-running guerrilla war that is threatening women's access to abortion across the country. Since 1977, there have been 154 incidents of arson, 39 bombings, and 99 acid attacks against abortion providers, according to the National Abortion Federation (NAF). And the severity of violence has steadily intensified. No longer content with damaging property, extremists are now determined to kill. NAF has recorded 15 attempted murders since 1991. And Slepian's assassination marks the seventh killing of an clinic worker in five years.
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