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hydrogonian
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Location: Cloud seven
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: 2nd Day in Seoul - Need advice |
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Hi everyone,
I'm staying in a motel in yeokgok and just started to make a couple of job contacts, via email, today. There are no foreigners in my neighborhood, as I'm sure your aware, and so i haven't met any yet. After I figured out the subway i wondered around for about 5 hours to get more familiar. Any advice anyone can give me on job hunting or meeting people would be fantastic. Thanks for your time
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Fredbob

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: |
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If you actually want any answer to this question you should state what kind of job you are looking for, where you want to work and what you have done so far.
If you are specific with your questions you will find you will get helpful answers quickly.
I'm assuming you've looked through the FAQ section, if not, do it. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Welcome to Seoul, home of crowded streets, crowded sidewalks and tons of fun!
The first thing you can do to meet people this weekend is come to the fundraiser for the Mongolian women's shelter at the Rocky Mountain Tavern in Itaewon this Friday. See the post about it on this forum.
About getting jobs, here's a list of things to do:
-Check the job openings on this website.
-Post your resume (make sure your resume is good and free of errors) on this website.
-Visit as many recruiter websites as possible and post your resume there. Stick with the big ones like footprints, WorkNPlay, UEC, etc., but be careful using any recruiter. Use them for contact info only and negotiate with the school as much as possible. Being in Seoul allows you to see the school, meet the other teachers, and see the housing they provide before you sign the dotted line.
-Network and avoid recruiters if you can. Do you know Korean? That will help you out.
-I'm guessing you are here on a tourist visa, either 30 or 90 days. Take your time, review your offers and contracts well, and play hardball.
What are your qualifications? This will help other posters understand what you can expect. Bibbity |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Go to Itaewon. Tell people in bars that you were mistreated by a school and now you're stuck in Korea. Create an elaborate story that includes
1. A barn that you had to live in
2. No payment
3. A free lunch at school, but no other food allowances
4. Abuse
You can probably get money from people and never have to work a real job! |
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hydrogonian
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Location: Cloud seven
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Um, except for Bippity, awesome answers. Thanks for nothing deuches, I'll take care of it.
1) I'm looking for a job teaching English in either a Hagwon of possibly an afterschool elementary program.
2)I came to Seoul without a job and knowing no one to avoid a bad situation. Hence my attempt to solicit leads and or advice from people already here.
3) No, I don't speak Korean. Probably hard to learn unless your family is Korean or you've lived here before. But then I wouldn't be asking for help
But anyway, can't wait to meet you winners. Sarcasm not dirested toward
bippity
peace |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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While you came across as a bit of a dick on your last post, considering that in the case of Fredbob, he was simply saying that your first post was very vague, I will try and give you some useful help.
First, Korean isn't too hard to learn, or at least picking up some basic useful stuff isn't too hard. Learning the numbers (like for money) and learning the characters (hangeul) isn't that hard. Sorry that I can't point you to any sites, but basically I'm saying that it's not as hard as you might believe.
Second, check your clothing. If you left in a hurry, you may have missed some things. Make sure to dress as nicely as you can for any interview. I definitely would reccomend a tie. If you're staying at the motel for a while, you can ask them if they can get your clothing cleaned. At the least, they can point you to where you can. I stress this, because Koreans really judge people by their clothing and style.
Finally, if you're going to live here, don't be dick towards everyone just because one guy is a wiseass. Good luck! |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Don't pay any attention to those guys. With your positive attitude, ability to work with others, flexibility, and ability to take constructive critisism, you'll go far here. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
Don't pay any attention to those guys. With your positive attitude, ability to work with others, flexibility, and ability to take constructive critisism, you'll go far here. |
lol yeah this dude sounds like a real charmer!  |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I change my mind. PRagic couldn't have said it better. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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You mean "Bibbity?" No problem, smooth. |
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Fredbob

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, thank you!
the first time I've ever been called a deuche
-not really familiar with that spelling but like the rest of your posts, I can understand very poorly written material without too much effort.
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the first time I've ever been directly insulted online
I'll always remember my first.
I'll be kind to you since you're new and probably still jetlagged. Otherwise I would have started a pool/poll for how long you are going to last in Korea or at least how long before you get "randomly attacked by a bunch of Koreans" when you weren't doing anything.
Good Luck 똥구멍 |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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hydrogonian wrote: |
Um, except for Bippity, awesome answers. Thanks for nothing deuches, I'll take care of it.
1) I'm looking for a job teaching English in either a Hagwon of possibly an afterschool elementary program.
2)I came to Seoul without a job and knowing no one to avoid a bad situation. Hence my attempt to solicit leads and or advice from people already here.
3) No, I don't speak Korean. Probably hard to learn unless your family is Korean or you've lived here before. But then I wouldn't be asking for help
But anyway, can't wait to meet you winners. Sarcasm not dirested toward
bippity
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
-Post your resume (make sure your resume is good and free of errors) on this website.
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Be sure to do this, and if you want more job offers than you could possibly sort through, include the words IN SEOUL NOW in the title of your post. Be sure to put a nice picture of yourself in your post when you include your web site.
I'll second Bibbitybop's suggest to hit an expat bar or two on the weekend to network a bit, and find people who know about jobs at the schools they work at. Since you're in Yeokgok, you might want to check out Goose Goose in Bupyeong, which is 5 or 6 stops away from you. If you want to work in Incheon, that is. Friday nights often has a good crowd there.
One last bit of advice, don't settle for anything less than the following. Even fresh off the plane, if you have a BA and a pulse you should be able to get what I call the Hogwon Bare Minimum (TM) at a kiddie hogwon:
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2.0 million for 120 teaching hours/mo
free non-shared apartment
roundtrip airfare from and to the nearest international airport to your home, or cash equivalent
block shift (no more than 8 hours between your daily start and finish time, get that in writing)
health insurance, 50% of premium paid by you, 50% by employer
pension contributions matched by employer
Monday-Friday schedule, NO SATURDAYS
2 weeks vacation
all national holidays off (no need to make them up)
any overtime is optional, paid at the rate of 120% of your standard hourly pay (minimum required by Korean law, this works out to W20,000/hr on a 2mil, 120hrs/mo contract) |
Good luck, and good on you for making the leap of faith to come over on your own dime. It takes guts, but if you play your cards right things you'll be glad you did. |
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hydrogonian
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Location: Cloud seven
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Alright, I was real tired when I skimmed the responses to my post and was really just responding to djsmnds..whatevers response..which really wasn't that bad now that I read it again. Although unnecessarily sarcastic given my current position of vulnerability. My apologies to everyone else( I'm much more rested now).
In any case, I have been using as many basic Korean phrases as I can remember and confidently pronounce since I arrived.
Thanks to everyone else who made an even slightly sincere offering of advice. I'm sure I'll have a job shortly. But please start that "how long will I be here post" that would be interesting and original. (note the more tempered response to negativity) ...at least I'm trying |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure you got your transcripts in order. They should be sealed inside an envelope w/ the school's 'letterhead' on the front and stamped w/ the school's seal on the back. Immigration is pretty picky here. |
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