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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: Private Lesson Rumor = 100,000 per hour |
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I've heard several rumor that some people are charging/paying average of 100,000 per hour for private lesson. Is there any truth to this?
If not, what is the rumored average? |
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JAWINSEOUL
Joined: 19 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: |
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There is a rumor that you want toeach privates,which is not legal and are trying to find out how much to charge. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: |
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JAWINSEOUL wrote: |
There is a rumor that you want toeach privates,which is not legal and are trying to find out how much to charge. |
Don't be a smart ass who thinks that can read people's mind. I have a good teaching job at a really good school plus all the extra overtime hours if and when I want them. I've heard it from couple of friends who's been in the country for awhile and working at other schools and was just curious if there's any truth to that. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: |
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There is truth to that rumor. It comes from a sacrifice of time, anooying parents who want ownership of you, phone calls at the wrong time, book shopping, constant excuses to your hagwon if they want you to come in, and a real pushover to fork out that much money per hour.
That said, of course I have only heard that from umm...other teachers. Bad teachers. Very bad. |
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noguri

Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Location: korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I keep hearing how the folks in Gangnam and Mokdong slap down all the big bucks for SAT tutoring, TOEFL, etc.
But don't they pay that much for tutoring only if they think you can guarantee them a hot score on the exam? Personally, I can't guarantee that any student is going to ace an exam. It depends on the student, right?
Seems like I would be a liar to guarantee a particular score to anyone.
At the school where I work, I teach people how to write in English and how to speak English. I can guarantee each student will improve, according to her or his ability. I don't feel that I am a sham.
But then I always hear about that lucrative SAT prep market...I do have to put food in my kid's mouth, after all! |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I keep hearing how the folks in Gangnam and Mokdong slap down all the big bucks for SAT tutoring, TOEFL, etc. |
Wow! So there is some truth to that kind of rate actually being charged/paid then. Only for SAT and TOEFL test prep types of lesson. Now I see why some would actually risk being caught and departorted for doing illegal privates. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Wow! So there is some truth to that kind of rate actually being charged/paid then. Only for SAT and TOEFL test prep types of lesson. Now I see why some would actually risk being caught and departorted for doing illegal privates. |
I know someone who was earning $60-70 US teaching SAT prep in South America. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: |
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But don't they pay that much for tutoring only if they think you can guarantee them a hot score on the exam? Personally, I can't guarantee that any student is going to ace an exam. It depends on the student, right? |
If one was smart they would prescreen their SAT prep students and only accept smart kids. Then when they get a good score you can talk all the credit for doing nothing. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Now I see why some would actually risk being caught and departorted for doing illegal privates. |
If you don't live in a major city, I doubt there is much chance of you getting caught and deported. |
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robot

Joined: 07 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: |
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teaching privates is legal if you're on an f-type or gyopo visa, which most people who teach SAT and other test prep are.
i know of some people who have made 90,000-100,000 won/hr, but even for test prep tutoring these cases are quite rare. i would personally feel bad taking that much money from a student, no matter what the quality of my lesson or the student's wealth.
50,000-60,000/hr is a fair and common price for a high-quality tutoring lesson. test prep and corporate work can get you 10,000 won/hour more. if i were a newbie, though, i'd start at 40,000 and go up to 50,000 as i gained confidence. simple conversation without any materials should be considerably less, but some students will pay these prices just for a chat.
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Natebomb
Joined: 23 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:53 am Post subject: |
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JAWINSEOUL wrote: |
There is a rumor that you want toeach privates,which is not legal and are trying to find out how much to charge. |
I know that privates are illegal, but man, why do people get so humpty about it? Relax, if a dude wants to risk getting caught, let em. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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ChuckECheese wrote: |
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Yeah, I keep hearing how the folks in Gangnam and Mokdong slap down all the big bucks for SAT tutoring, TOEFL, etc. |
Wow! So there is some truth to that kind of rate actually being charged/paid then. Only for SAT and TOEFL test prep types of lesson. Now I see why some would actually risk being caught and departorted for doing illegal privates. |
It's not limited to students of rich parents or SAT and TOEFL prep(Mind you, the Koreans that teach those kind of 'how to beat the SAT or TOEFL' classes make massive bucks, particularly the outfits in Jongno and Gangnam.)
It's also the corporate circuit. Although most advertised corporate gigs are around 35-40K/hr, be mindful that the recruiter is also often at least making that, so that's a total of 70-80K/hr. And 100K+/hr is not unheard of.
For kids, its even more possible, because if you're networked, you can organize groups of 4-5 for 20K/hr per person, etc...Thats often how Koreans start gongbubangs that later blossom into hagwons after a year or two. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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It's true.
But the way forward is charging set tuition for a period of time and a number of services. You can really make a lot of money teaching several subjects to a student who trusts you and all with minimum time commitment.
Protip: You need to be worth the money. |
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Cohiba

Joined: 01 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: Privates |
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I know that privates are illegal, but man, why do people get so humpty about it? Relax, if a dude wants to risk getting caught, let em. |
I totally agree here. These self-righteous do-gooders should shut
the hell up and mind there own business. If they want to make some
slimy hagwon owner rich then that is their own stupidity.
That being said, 100,000/hour is totally reasonable for teaching in
any company. 100,000 is exactly what a recruiter charges them. So
once again, pocket your hard earned cash and ignore these one-
dimensional automatons that harp on like broken records. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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robot wrote: |
teaching privates is legal if you're on an f-type or gyopo visa, which most people who teach SAT and other test prep are.
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I've heard Jinju say this over and over again on this board and I very much doubt it is true. I'm on an F visa as well. I'd like to know your source on this statement.
Furthermore, if you teach at a public school, it is a violation of your contract regardless of your visa because you are a public offical. |
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