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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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 Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: Christian Honour Killing in the UK! |
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No, wait, that should read "Muslim honour killing...". My mistake.
I'm sure the muslim community and her peaceful leaders should be issuing a fatwa against killing kids for religious reasons any minute now...
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Men 'murdered six-year-old girl in honour killing arson attack'
By Nick Britten
(Filed: 20/09/2006)
Two men murdered a six-year-old girl by setting fire to her house to warn her brother off a relationship he was having, a court heard yesterday.
Alisha Begum suffered 95 per cent burns and died after a masked man burst into her home, sprayed petrol around and set it alight. The fire spread so quickly that members of her family had to jump out of upstairs windows to escape.
Birmingham Crown Court heard the attack was planned by Hussain Ahmed, a 26-year-old dentist, and Daryll Tuzzio, 18, after Ahmed found out his 15-year-old sister was seeing Alisha's brother, Abdul Hamid, 21. Yesterday the two men went on trial accused of murder and the attempted murder of nine of the girl's relatives who escaped from the blazing house in Aston, Birmingham. |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/20/nhonour20.xml |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:45 am Post subject: Re: Christian Honour Killing in the UK! |
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| BJWD wrote: |
No, wait, that should read "Muslim honour killing...". My mistake.
I'm sure the muslim community and her peaceful leaders should be issuing a fatwa against killing kids for religious reasons any minute now...
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Men 'murdered six-year-old girl in honour killing arson attack'
By Nick Britten
(Filed: 20/09/2006)
Two men murdered a six-year-old girl by setting fire to her house to warn her brother off a relationship he was having, a court heard yesterday.
Alisha Begum suffered 95 per cent burns and died after a masked man burst into her home, sprayed petrol around and set it alight. The fire spread so quickly that members of her family had to jump out of upstairs windows to escape.
Birmingham Crown Court heard the attack was planned by Hussain Ahmed, a 26-year-old dentist, and Daryll Tuzzio, 18, after Ahmed found out his 15-year-old sister was seeing Alisha's brother, Abdul Hamid, 21. Yesterday the two men went on trial accused of murder and the attempted murder of nine of the girl's relatives who escaped from the blazing house in Aston, Birmingham. |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/20/nhonour20.xml |
Wow! BJWD (what does that stand for?) you're just brimming over with sensationalist misinformation today!!
This isn't a honour killing. It's murder /manslaughter after an attempt at intimidation or revenge. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:05 am Post subject: |
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BJWD and his ilk are all pathetic jokes. It is about time we stopped treating them with kid gloves and call them out for what they are..hatemongering cowards!
Granted there are exceptions. You only have one leg. You are 84 years old. You have a criminal record (does that matter anymore?) If you truly feel that Islam is such a great threat you should shut the hell up and sign up! |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Christian Honour Killing in the UK! |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| BJWD wrote: |
No, wait, that should read "Muslim honour killing...". My mistake.
I'm sure the muslim community and her peaceful leaders should be issuing a fatwa against killing kids for religious reasons any minute now...
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Men 'murdered six-year-old girl in honour killing arson attack'
By Nick Britten
(Filed: 20/09/2006)
Two men murdered a six-year-old girl by setting fire to her house to warn her brother off a relationship he was having, a court heard yesterday.
Alisha Begum suffered 95 per cent burns and died after a masked man burst into her home, sprayed petrol around and set it alight. The fire spread so quickly that members of her family had to jump out of upstairs windows to escape.
Birmingham Crown Court heard the attack was planned by Hussain Ahmed, a 26-year-old dentist, and Daryll Tuzzio, 18, after Ahmed found out his 15-year-old sister was seeing Alisha's brother, Abdul Hamid, 21. Yesterday the two men went on trial accused of murder and the attempted murder of nine of the girl's relatives who escaped from the blazing house in Aston, Birmingham. |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/20/nhonour20.xml |
Wow! BJWD (what does that stand for?) you're just brimming over with sensationalist misinformation today!!
This isn't a honour killing. It's murder /manslaughter after an attempt at intimidation or revenge. |
Actually, it was an honour killing.
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20 September 2006
GIRL, 6, DIES IN 'HONOUR' FIRE ATTACK
A LITTLE girl who died in an arson attack was the innocent victim of an attempted honour killing, a court heard yesterday. |
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17784941&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=girl--6--dies-in--honour--fire-attack--name_page.html
There was also one in Ottawa on Tuesday.
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DISBELIEF FELL over an Ottawa intensive care unit yesterday when police announced they were hunting the brother of a young woman who was shot to death at an east-end mall.
Ottawa police said last night they considered Khatera Sadiqi's 20-year-old brother, Hasibullah Sadiqi, a suspect in the shooting that killed the 20-year-old woman early Tuesday morning.
Speculation about why police consider Hasibullah Sadiqi a suspect began to snowball yesterday, but some people said the local Afghan community has been talking about the couple's upcoming marriage.
Hameed Mangal said he heard Hasibullah Sadiqi had issues with the relationship.
"He wasn't happy because they were engaged," Hameed, 24, said. |
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2006/09/21/1872647-sun.html
Though I do find it interesting that those who point out the patterns of crimes by mussies are considered the 'jokes' by the hakwon cowboy types I can't help but wonder why people still defend the religion of death? Why can't you just accept that islam is a dangerous cult? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| so, for argument's sake, let's say it is a death cult. what you going to do about it? |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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It's not a joke at all. It's a murder, people are dead. Personally, I think it's more of a joke that some hagwon cowboy types want to use these incidents as way to promote their own hatred.
That's you BJ. You're the punchline here.
Oh, and just because people who are in the busy of making news sensational and intriquing want to call it an "honour killing", doesn't always make it so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
I can't accept what you say, because your outrage, fear and contempt makes you irrational. If it wasn't for muslims you'd have some other bogeyman to loathe. Just think back... before 11/9 what was the object of your contempt? You seem to be the kind of person, who needs someone or something else to hate. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not going to do anything other than advocate for an end to islamic immigration to Canada. Though the job is getting easier with every passing day. I remember when I first read the Qur'an in uni and mentioned in class that it permitted killing non-muslims, and even could be said to encourage the killing of non-muslims, my professor and the class jumped down my throat. Then 9/11, and all the stuff since, and I have now noticed that if you put 4 non-muslim canadians in a room eventually they will start criticising and plotting the export of the muslims. But there is still a lefty, white-guilt filled type who refuses to see anything bad in brown people. These people are the problem now, and the ones who should be brought up to speed on our world.
I don't care what the do in their nations, I just want their violent, homophobic, sexist and supremacists cult kept out of Canada.
We have a hard enough time with the Xians as it is. My Canada is one where women and gays are totally equal in all legal ways, free from abuse and the fear of violence. One where religion is increasingly pushed aside in public and private life. And I DO NOT see how importing tens upon tens of thousands of brainwashed muslism will help improve my nation. Just can't see it.
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Christian Honour Killing in the UK! |
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| BJWD wrote: |
| I can't help but wonder why people still defend the religion of death? Why can't you just accept that islam is a dangerous cult? |
Because its not either of these things. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
I don't care what the do in their nations, I just want their violent, homophobic, sexist and supremacists cult in my nation.. |
I'm sure you made a typo there! 
If you don't care what they do in their nations, then did you support the removal of the Taliban? How about Saddam? And why are you posting things about what random guys do in Saudi?
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| We have a hard enough time with the Xians as it is. My Canada is one where women and gays are totally equal in all legal ways, free from abuse and the fear of violence. . |
Really?? I'm not from Canada, and have never been there so I don't know how true this is. But in the UK, gay people are CERTAINLY NOT equal and free from abuse and violence and discrimination. Things are much better for women now than they were 50 years ago, but some feminists would argue that inequality still exists. Violence, homophobia, sexism and supremacism have all existed in the UK for a long time, and I can't see a connection between them and Islam in the UK. Not when you look at the number of Muslims living there, and the incidences of violence etc perpertrated by them. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| BJWD wrote: |
I don't care what the do in their nations, I just want their violent, homophobic, sexist and supremacists cult in my nation.. |
I'm sure you made a typo there!
If you don't care what they do in their nations, then did you support the removal of the Taliban? How about Saddam? And why are you posting things about what random guys do in Saudi?
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| We have a hard enough time with the Xians as it is. My Canada is one where women and gays are totally equal in all legal ways, free from abuse and the fear of violence. . |
Really?? I'm not from Canada, and have never been there so I don't know how true this is. But in the UK, gay people are CERTAINLY NOT equal and free from abuse and violence and discrimination. Things are much better for women now than they were 50 years ago, but some feminists would argue that inequality still exists. Violence, homophobia, sexism and supremacism have all existed in the UK for a long time, and I can't see a connection between them and Islam in the UK. Not when you look at the number of Muslims living there, and the incidences of violence etc perpertrated by them. |
Yup, my typo. I changed it.
And you are right, Canada isn't that place yet. That is exactly my point! We have enough of a hard time dealing with the Christians as it is. Why make it worse?
And no, I don't support the removal of Saddam and never really supported the Afgan war either. The last thing I want is Western blood and money going to create a democracy that elected and extends legitimacy to Taliban part 2. The reason I post about what a Saudi did (In America!) is to demonstrate that they bring their barbaric culture to our societies. muslim nations need to be left alone. Totally alone. The must fight their own battles. Maybe, in a few thousand years, when they are able to accept reason and rationality, they can be embraced. For now, we need separation, for our sake.
I want those of you who attack me to answer one question. Will bringing tens of thousands of muslims into Western nations make a more or less hospitable environment for women and gays?
I'm a liberal, in the true sense of the world. I value freedom and individual rights. Islam is not able to adapt to this TODAY (though maybe in the future, should the embrace science and rational thought). So, it and they must stay out. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| i suggest you PM big verne and encourage him to come back. He does a better job at promoting your beliefs than you do. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| i suggest you PM big verne and encourage him to come back. He does a better job at promoting your beliefs than you do. |
Ya, I was gone from here for a few months. What happened to that fun-loving big ol' racist. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
I want those of you who attack me to answer one question. Will bringing tens of thousands of muslims into Western nations make a more or less hospitable environment for women and gays?
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Things have gotten better for women and gay people though, although there is still some way to go, particularly with gay people. However, from what I've seen in the UK, this improvement has happened alongside an increase in Muslim people living there.
Gay people in the UK are, I'm sure, more at risk of being attacked by non-Muslims than Muslims.
I also really don't think that womens status in Western societies would be influenced by an increase in the Muslim population. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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seriously, what % of canada is muslim? I know in the USA it is around 5% max. The odds of negative aspects of Islamic culture becoming part of Canadian society are so remote.
In addition, you're assuming that Muslims don't assimilate. They certainly do in the USA, while obviously in Europe they've had problems (as have other immigrants). I'm not sure how it is in Canada. Regardless, at least some of them are going to become more western-oriented in their thinking and behaivor, and influence the rest of the Muslim community. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Alright you convinced us RR... errr BJWaD. Muslims are EVIL. Plain evil. No respect for the law blah blah.
Now what should we do? Go kill them? |
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