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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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otis wrote: |
Novernae wrote: |
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If he was good for the poor, he'd create an economic system where the poor could actually find jobs and buy their own bread. |
You are forgetting that this isn't allowed in the international economic system we have now...  |
He OWNS Citgo.
You have any idea how much that clown is worth? |
OTIS, THAT IS NOT WORK FRIENDLY! THERE ARE KIDS IN MY SCHOOL. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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otis wrote: |
Novernae wrote: |
otis wrote: |
If he was good for the poor, he'd create an economic system where the poor could actually find jobs and buy their own bread. |
You are forgetting that this isn't allowed in the international economic system we have now...  |
He OWNS Citgo.
You have any idea how much that clown is worth? |
OTIS, THAT IS NOT WORK FRIENDLY! THERE ARE KIDS IN MY SCHOOL. And just so you don't think I am a hypocrite, I also said the same of the nude Jessica Alba picture. |
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otis

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
otis wrote: |
Novernae wrote: |
otis wrote: |
If he was good for the poor, he'd create an economic system where the poor could actually find jobs and buy their own bread. |
You are forgetting that this isn't allowed in the international economic system we have now...  |
He OWNS Citgo.
You have any idea how much that clown is worth? |
OTIS, THAT IS NOT WORK FRIENDLY! THERE ARE KIDS IN MY SCHOOL. |
What are you talking about? |
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otis

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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A guy in his swimming trunks? |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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otis wrote: |
What are you talking about? |
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otis

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
otis wrote: |
What are you talking about? |
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Well, I'll change it--although I think you're being silly.
A guy in his swimming trunks doesn't seem like that big of a deal. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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otis wrote: |
laogaiguk wrote: |
otis wrote: |
What are you talking about? |
Your avatar |
Well, I'll change it--although I think you're being silly.
A guy in his swimming trunks doesn't seem like that big of a deal. |
Thanks. You know how kids are. Everyday I get off the bus with a female teacher, and all they say is "I love you, I love you and make hearts with their hands." They think any picture in an avatar if they see it is someone I know  |
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otis

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, no problem.
Now they can look at a fat actress. |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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As Jon Stewart said yesterday, Chavez's routine makes anyone who disagrees with Bush (but isn't completely insane) look bad. Calling Bush "Satan" is intellectually weak and does a disservice to his own rhetoric. He has a right to dislike Bush but he could certainly put forth a more intricate argument than "the UN smells of sulfur." |
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otis

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: |
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animalbirdfish wrote: |
As Jon Stewart said yesterday, Chavez's routine makes anyone who disagrees with Bush (but isn't completely insane) look bad. Calling Bush "Satan" is intellectually weak and does a disservice to his own rhetoric. He has a right to dislike Bush but he could certainly put forth a more intricate argument than "the UN smells of sulfur." |
Chavez is the el Jefe of a country where 85 percent--85, mind you--live below the poverty line.
This guy owns Citgo.
All this Robin Hood crap is utterly ridiculous.
The guy is a menance. He financially supports FARC.
And now he's aligning himself with Syria and Iran. And the UN applauds this guy?
It's a real slap in the face. We float the UN with our tax dollars as Americans. Why are we even a member? |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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I think the point is that the UN is the joke, in it's present form, and with regard to what it's supposed to do compared to what it actually does do. The big bully is able to invade a sovereign nation without world approval, on dubious grounds which are later proven to be false. Israel is able to bomb Lebanon back to the stone age, while the world, and the security council, twiddles their thumbs. Chavez and Akmoudinedjad are saying the world is built on a double-standard, while the UN was supposed to be an entity that stood for a brotherhood of nations. I found it refreshing that a head of state would speak so frankly. Why the hell not? I love Jon Stewart, but Americans don't care about what the rest of the world thinks, and they don't know what is going on in the rest of the world, for the most part. America's voting is to a large degree controlled by a bunch of hay-seeds who couldn't find Mexico and Canada on the map, let alone Iran or Venezuela. They certainly aren't going to change their vote based on a speech by Chavez. Kofi Annan said the world is in desperate need of reform. Does that get reported? Does anyone in the U.S. care? Of course not. They leave millions behind in their own nation. They couldn't even be bothered to organize an air-drop of food and water to the Superdome, and it was on every channel 24-7. What the U.S. has become is an embarassment to the legacy of T. Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy (Bay of Pigs aside), and even Bush Sr., who did not hold a neo-conservative agenda, at least not to the degree his son does. If you believe that the U.S. has the right to control the world, "because we have to fight terror", than a "1984"-like world is right around the corner, and has already shown itself in many forms. All for oil, multi-nationals, and profits. It's a simple game, and I applaud the likes of Chavez for at least saying what a farce the ideas of an even playing field, democracy, and the UN are. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:44 am Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener wrote: |
I think the point is that the UN is the joke, in it's present form, and with regard to what it's supposed to do compared to what it actually does do. The big bully is able to invade a sovereign nation without world approval, on dubious grounds which are later proven to be false. Israel is able to bomb Lebanon back to the stone age, while the world, and the security council, twiddles their thumbs. Chavez and Akmoudinedjad are saying the world is built on a double-standard, while the UN was supposed to be an entity that stood for a brotherhood of nations. I found it refreshing that a head of state would speak so frankly. Why the hell not? I love Jon Stewart, but Americans don't care about what the rest of the world thinks, and they don't know what is going on in the rest of the world, for the most part. America's voting is to a large degree controlled by a bunch of hay-seeds who couldn't find Mexico and Canada on the map, let alone Iran or Venezuela. They certainly aren't going to change their vote based on a speech by Chavez. Kofi Annan said the world is in desperate need of reform. Does that get reported? Does anyone in the U.S. care? Of course not. They leave millions behind in their own nation. They couldn't even be bothered to organize an air-drop of food and water to the Superdome, and it was on every channel 24-7. What the U.S. has become is an embarassment to the legacy of T. Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy (Bay of Pigs aside), and even Bush Sr., who did not hold a neo-conservative agenda, at least not to the degree his son does. If you believe that the U.S. has the right to control the world, "because we have to fight terror", than a "1984"-like world is right around the corner, and has already shown itself in many forms. All for oil, multi-nationals, and profits. It's a simple game, and I applaud the likes of Chavez for at least saying what a farce the ideas of an even playing field, democracy, and the UN are. |
Sadly, many of the points you make are valid. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:08 am Post subject: |
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And Venezuela's Citgo is going to double it's discount gas for the American poor program. Does any American-based mulitnational do such a thing? I doubt it, or I'm sure we'd see lots of those ridiculous infomertials about how Chevron, Exxon, and BP are saving the environment. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Chavez is a nut! All he's trying to do is get some attention from the world and try to act like someone important from an insignificant country. The only reason he is not being ignored by some countries is because they want to tap into his oil. Without oil, what would he be? He'll be just another peasant S. American leader(more like dictator) looking for handouts from the U.S. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Chomsky has reason to smile...
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Ch�vez boosts Chomsky sales
Sales at Barnes & Noble and other retail chains reportedly jumped tenfold, prompting the publisher, Metropolitan Books, a unit of Henry Holt & Company, to print an additional 25,000 copies.
Some of Prof Chomsky's other titles, such as Media Control: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda, have also enjoyed a boom in sales.
Until now the dream endorsement for most authors came from television chatshow hosts such as Oprah Winfrey or the UK's Richard and Judy. |
http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,1880226,00.html |
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