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otis
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 Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: Noam Chomsky |
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Noam Chosmsky taught me a very important lesson in life. You can have an IQ that is off the charts. You can be a popular professor at MIT. You can be followed like a god by a bunch of fawning liberals, socialists, and Marxists.
And, despite all this, you can still be just another assclown without a damn thing to say.
Thanks, Noam, for the lesson. |
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gang ah jee
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| And, despite all this, you can still be just another assclown without a damn thing to say. |
It must be nice to be in the same league as Noam Chomsky, yeah? |
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gang ah jee
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Might be worth pointing out that Chomsky's contributions to linguistics and psychology account for his tenure; his political activism is brought to you by popular demand. |
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otis
Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: |
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What's sad about the popularity of guys like Chomsky, Howard Dean, Micheal Moore, etc. is that they have single-handedly dismantled the democratic party.
There really is no democratic party left in terms of how it can be remembered during Truman or JFK. All we have now is the European Socialist Pacisfist Party. And good luck trying to elect a president under that banner. |
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re:cursive
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| I've got a lot of respect for Noam Chomsky. In fact I'd consider inviting him to that hypothetical "Anyone at a dinner party" scenario. Him or Marshall McLuhan. Not both though. They'd have to play rock, scissors, paper to win a place at the seat. |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Universal Grammar is awesome and he's a brilliant man that people can rally to. and i think in the 20-21st century, that's really what matters. it may not be right, but that's the way things are going.
and don't go calling him a Democrat, because i really don't think he is a Democrat. we need more than two parties and we need to be able to classify politics on a broader scale that would take into account people like Chomsky and Pat Buchanan. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:15 am Post subject: Re: Noam Chomsky |
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But if you look at people who have actually DONE SOMETHING and BUILT SOMETHING (Lee Kwan Yew; Booker T. Washington; Li Ka-Shing), they don't have all that much to say. Lee Kwan Yew has probably written a fraction of what Chomsky has written and yet he has created more wealth (by orders of magnitude) and had more of an effect on people's lives than Chomsky ever will. Li Ka-Shing is related to things that people buy every day, and I think he has written a single book. What has Noam Chomsky built and done? What does he know how to do that has gained him credit and respect (other than complain)? |
Booker T. and Lee, Kwan Yew?
You are either a nerd-troll or a college freshman.
And, oh, Otis. You're such a silly man. |
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Demophobe
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| Otis prods the left.... |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| KWhitehead wrote: |
| and don't go calling him a Democrat, because i really don't think he is a Democrat. we need more than two parties and we need to be able to classify politics on a broader scale that would take into account people like Chomsky and Pat Buchanan. |
I wouldn't pay attention to otis's rant about that - what he wrote doesn't even make sense logically.
But yeah, I was just thinking I should ask my department if Chomsky's ever going to be scheduled to stop over in NZ - I'd say it's quite unlikely since NZ linguistics doesn't have a very strong generative grammar tradition, but even on the off-chance, getting the chance to meet him would be pretty awesome.
This thread is now the Noam Chomsky love-in. |
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Boodleheimer
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
But yeah, I was just thinking I should ask my department if Chomsky's ever going to be scheduled to stop over in NZ - I'd say it's quite unlikely since NZ linguistics doesn't have a very strong generative grammar tradition, but even on the off-chance, getting the chance to meet him would be pretty awesome.
This thread is now the Noam Chomsky love-in. |
could you get me an autograph? if he does come? |
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gang ah jee
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| could you get me an autograph? if he does come? |
Maybe the autograph of someone who's met him? Would that be good enough? |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:23 am Post subject: |
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All we are sayyyyyyyying (Otis),
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...responsibility correlates with privilege. If you're more privileged, you're more responsible. Take Germany again, the Nazis, maybe the worst period in history. Some poor guy who was sent out to the eastern front and carried out the atrocities--he didn't have any choices. If he objected, he would have been slaughtered by the command. But Martin Heidegger had choices. He didn't have to write books and articles giving complicated, elaborate supports for the Nazis.
The people who are sitting in places like MIT have choices. They have privilege, they have education, they have training. That carries responsibility. Somebody who is working fifty hours a week to put food on the table and comes back exhausted at night and turns on the tube has many fewer choices. Technically, this person has choices, but they're much harder to exercise, and therefore he has less responsibility. That's just elementary. The people with the privilege and the education and the training are also the decision makers, either in the government or in business or in the doctrinal institutions. So, yes, they're the ones responsible, far more than those who don't have any choices.
--Noam Chomsky, Imperial Ambitions |
...is give peace a chance.
(Wouldn't be awesome if there was a photo of Noam and his wife under the sheets, lecturing during a bed-in?) |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
| KWhitehead wrote: |
| could you get me an autograph? if he does come? |
Maybe the autograph of someone who's met him? Would that be good enough? |
i dunno... whoever does body parts. |
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gang ah jee
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:29 am Post subject: |
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We need some young Chomsky up in here.
Look at him - all colorless green ideas sleeping furiously in that head of his... |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
We need some young Chomsky up in here.
Look at him - all colorless green ideas sleeping furiously in that head of his... |
For a while I thought if I just drank enough wheatgrass... |
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