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advice to teach a proud 60 yr old business man

 
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ellie



Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne- Australia

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: advice to teach a proud 60 yr old business man Reply with quote

he would really like to learn english as he has incurred difficulties in his life whilst travelling abroad.

Just wondering if u guys have any tips, as I would need to teach this guy his ABCs but dont want him to feel stupid! would i pull out the picture cards?

Also, to all those that have contributed to this site- congratulations a job well done. tis very resourceful!
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First tell him Korea is great, you like the food, its not too hot, you live alone but are not lonely, you have a girlfriend, and you're not considering marriage. Oh, and feign amazement at the four seasons, this one being fall.

You know he's going to mention it anyways.

Then, old guys love to talk about the past. So ask him about some topic, get him started in a story, and while he's talking write down some sentences that he misspoke. Then after the story has come to its conclusion go over the sentences with him and review the correct ways to say those things. He'll probably repeat it a few times on his own.


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ellie



Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne- Australia

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: hmm... Reply with quote

his wife is one of my best friends so none of that- and really he can not string a sentence together even a poor attempt!

hmm...
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't know Korean (or even if you do...lie!) have HIM teach you the Korean alphabet while you teach him the English alphabet. It will give him a sense of knowing something that you don't, and ease the way into learning English reading...and improve your Korean!
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Dazed and Confused



Joined: 10 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught a woman in her 60's a few years back. Although she did understand some English, she could barely string a sentance together either. I started with a basic textbook, Side by Side 1, and told her right out that it wasn't interesting, repeated alot, but covered the basic verb tenses and she'd get lots of practice. She accepted this and studied hard and could see herself improve over time. My advice-be straightforward and tell him you're going to start at the bottom and work up.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
If you don't know Korean (or even if you do...lie!) have HIM teach you the Korean alphabet while you teach him the English alphabet. It will give him a sense of knowing something that you don't, and ease the way into learning English reading...and improve your Korean!


Nice. I like.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
If you don't know Korean (or even if you do...lie!) have HIM teach you the Korean alphabet while you teach him the English alphabet. It will give him a sense of knowing something that you don't, and ease the way into learning English reading...and improve your Korean!


Great idea, ajuma.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: advice to teach a proud 60 yr old business man Reply with quote

ellie wrote:
he would really like to learn english as he has incurred difficulties in his life whilst travelling abroad.

Just wondering if u guys have any tips, as I would need to teach this guy his ABCs but dont want him to feel stupid! would i pull out the picture cards?

Also, to all those that have contributed to this site- congratulations a job well done. tis very resourceful!


He's already self-motived, so you don't need to entertain him. Your first priority it seems is going to be getting him comfy with the alphabet. My approach to teaching absolute beginners is to start with four letters: ABCD. Get them to understand and memorize the basic sounds (short a, hard c). Then, start with making words from them. Bad, Ad, Cab, Dab, Dad.. and then progress from there, one or two letters at a time. Keep the words basic and short, avoiding silent E long vowels at first, then branch out from there, organically.

In the beginning, it's not so necessary that he understand the meanings. However, if you know the Korean definitions, it wouldn't hurt to have him make a list of words to memorize and practice speaking.

That's how I start with the ones who don't know the alphabet yet. I do think that picture flashcards would be demeaning. Also, saying GREAT!! YOU ARE SO SMART! like you (hopefully) do to children could be read as patronizing.


And, just on a side note: sentance? Seriously, people..

Q.


EDIT: I thought I should add that it would also be helpful to teach useful expressions, even if he doesn't understand the grammar yet. That will encourage him, for one, and it will help him understand the grammar when you teach it later. For example, after two lessons with first graders who didn't know any letters, I had them grammatically responding to:

Where do you live?
How old are you?
What is your name?

You can extrapolate from there. One or two phrases per lesson, taught orally through demonstration, and reviewed each time.

Cheers.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are over-reacting to his age. He knows he doesn't know the alphabet and doesn't necessarily feel stupid.

There's a lot of good advice on this thread. Use it and don't worry that using flash cards designed for kids will insult him. But do focus more on words that will be useful to him. Robot made some good suggestions on the Vocabulary Expansion thread.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try building thematic conversation trees. Build a simple conversation, and over time, at each place where there is an option for a different response or quesiton, you can start adding them in. You can have him write them down, and he will probably practise them on his own.
Just my thought...
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