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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Nope. Northern Ireland and Serbia are the two most recent examples that come to mind. |
Once again, so what? I'm not going to lose my lunch over it. Let them do what ever they want to on their own time. |
So, it did happen again, with Christians in the modern world. That's what. |
What happened again? What happened in Northern Ireland and Serbia? Please enlightened me. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| What happened again? What happened in Northern Ireland and Serbia? Please enlightened me. |
I hope that is a rhetorical question...................
DD
PS. Please learn to see the shit for the flies.......
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| So what *beep* happens in the history (ancient). The big difference is that Christians were and are progressive and they learned from their mistakes and created society of freedom. |
and also reflect on the following given your totally ethnocentric postings.
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Delirium's Brother wrote:
stupidity knows no religion, race, or political ideology. |
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Zoobot

Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Even if it is true, muslims founded the first university at Cairo (which women studied at as well), and without the rediscovery of Plato, Aristotle through Arabic sources as well as the influence of Arabic thinkers like Avarroes, Avicenna and other Islamic thinkers, Europeans never would have emerged from the "dark" ages. |
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Zoobot

Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Even if it is true, muslims founded the first university at Cairo (which women studied at as well), and without the rediscovery of Plato, Aristotle through Arabic sources as well as the influence of Arabic thinkers like Avarroes, Avicenna and other Islamic thinkers, Europeans never would have emerged from the "dark" ages. |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ChuckECheese wrote: |
| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
| ChuckECheese wrote: |
| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
| Nope. Northern Ireland and Serbia are the two most recent examples that come to mind. |
Once again, so what? I'm not going to lose my lunch over it. Let them do what ever they want to on their own time. |
So, it did happen again, with Christians in the modern world. That's what. |
What happened again? What happened in Northern Ireland and Serbia? Please enlightened me. |
Okay.
| On Sunday Oct 01, 2006, at 8:24 pm, among other things Ya-Ta Boy wrote: |
| Religious toleration is a fairly new concept even in the west. Those spouting off about getting rid of the Moslems in the West are demonstrating just how shallow the roots of toleration and freedom of conscience are. |
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| So what? Would that happen again with Christians in the modern world? Maybe... but most unlikely. Wouldn't you agree? |
| I responded that yes it has happened again with Christians in the modern world when I wrote: |
| Nope. Northern Ireland and Serbia are the two most recent examples that come to mind. |
| You didn't seem to understand that your original statement was incorrect when you wrote: |
| Once again, so what? I'm not going to lose my lunch over it. Let them do what ever they want to on their own time. |
| So I repeated my original statement when I wrote: |
| So, it did happen again, with Christians in the modern world. That's what. |
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| What happened again? What happened in Northern Ireland and Serbia? Please enlightened me. |
For the past 30-50 years, there has been a great deal of religious strife and violence between Christian sects in Northern Ireland. During the 1990s, Christian Serbians and Christian Bosnian Serbs conducted a campaign of genocide against Moslem Bosnians.
So, your original statement was incorrect. Christian bigotry, intolerance and violence between Christian sects and against non-Christians has taken place, on a large scale, in the modern world. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| For the past 30-50 years, there has been a great deal of religious strife and violence between Christian sects in Northern Ireland. |
That had more to do with money and political allegiances than religion. IRA did not kill in the name of Mary, but republicanism.
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| During the 1990s, Christian Serbians and Christian Bosnian Serbs conducted a campaign of genocide against Moslem Bosnians. |
These conflicts were all more about ethnicity.
In any case, where would Europe be were it not for the Serbian bulwark guarding the back door? |
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happeningthang

Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
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| For the past 30-50 years, there has been a great deal of religious strife and violence between Christian sects in Northern Ireland. |
That had more to do with money and political allegiances than religion. IRA did not kill in the name of Mary, but republicanism.
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| During the 1990s, Christian Serbians and Christian Bosnian Serbs conducted a campaign of genocide against Moslem Bosnians. |
These conflicts were all more about ethnicity.
In any case, where would Europe be were it not for the Serbian bulwark guarding the back door? |
You're claiming the attempted genocide conducted by Serbian/Bosnian christians was based on ethnicity. In the next breath you say it's all for the best because these christians are guarding Europe...
Guarding Europe against what? The "ethnic" group localised in Serbia, or the muslim hordes??
I don't know what's more offensive; your obvious hypocrisy, or your implied approval for attempted genocide. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
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During the 1990s, Christian Serbians and Christian Bosnian Serbs conducted a campaign of genocide against Moslem Bosnians. |
These conflicts were all more about ethnicity.
In any case, where would Europe be were it not for the Serbian bulwark guarding the back door? |
1. ethnicity? Yeah, they just speak the same language. Good luck trying to distinguish a serb from a bosnian. (yes, I'm sure they can amongst themselves, but an outsider? Yeah right.)
2. Those serbs, what fighters they are! Only they would fight over a place that symbolizes their complete defeat (kosovo). They were the last Europeans to get their asses kicked by Muslims. You can thank the Austrians for pushing the "Muslim hordes" back from the heart of Europe.
Wikipedia: Siege of Vienna
BTW where is that reputable source about the library? |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| They were the last Europeans to get their asses kicked by Muslims. |
Actually they were defeated by American/UN bombing raids. Another own goal.
BTW the last Europeans to get their ass kecked by Muslims were the French, last year. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| They were the last Europeans to get their asses kicked by Muslims. |
Actually they were defeated by American/UN bombing raids. Another own goal.
BTW the last Europeans to get their ass kecked by Muslims were the French, last year. |
well yes, they were defeated by Americans. Nice to see you're a fan of genocide as well. Wonder how well that would go over with your pals in Israel.
Ah, so riots=losing a war. Interesting. And the fact that christian immigrants particpating in the riots isn't relevant? Of course not.
Junior, you aren't a friend of Rapier's by any chance would you? hmmm... |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
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| They were the last Europeans to get their asses kicked by Muslims. |
Actually they were defeated by American/UN bombing raids. Another own goal.
BTW the last Europeans to get their ass kecked by Muslims were the French, last year. |
well yes, they were defeated by Americans. Nice to see you're a fan of genocide as well. Wonder how well that would go over with your pals in Israel.
Yeah? I guess we should have left them and let them duke it out (Nice population control). Maybe we would have lesser problems today.
Ah, so riots=losing a war. Interesting. And the fact that christian immigrants particpating in the riots isn't relevant? Of course not.
Riots? What riots? All I saw on TV was French getting their asses kicked by bunch of thugs who were lead by Muslims.
Junior, you aren't a friend of Rapier's by any chance would you? hmmm... |
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