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Is the US compromising British security?

 
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:08 am    Post subject: Is the US compromising British security? Reply with quote

Has the US selfishly put British domestic security at risk, by forcing the Brits to take premature action which has put other surveillance activity in jeopardy? Will innocent Brits be paying the price with their lives in the future?

Hehe, Gopher's going to blow a gasket... Laughing

US pushed MI5 into airport terror swoop

Fight over suspect in Pakistan revealed as Musharraf quashes terror claims

Jamie Doward and Mark Townsend
Sunday October 1, 2006
The Observer


The US warned Britain that it was prepared to seize the key suspect in the UK's biggest ever anti-terrorism operation and fly him to a secret detention centre for interrogation by American agents, even if this meant riding roughshod over its closest ally, The Observer can reveal.
American intelligence agents told their British counterparts they were ready to 'render' Rashid Rauf, a British citizen allegedly linked to al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and who was under surveillance in Pakistan, unless he was picked up immediately. Rauf is the key suspect in the alleged plot to detonate explosives on up to 10 transatlantic planes that was exposed in August and, according to the police, would have brought 'mass murder on an unimaginable scale'.

The Americans' demand for Rauf's quick arrest dismayed the British intelligence services, which were worried that it could prompt terrorist cells in the UK working on separate plots to bring forward their plans or go underground. In the weeks preceding his arrest it is understood that MI5 and MI6 discussed with their US counterparts the best way to dismantle the alleged plot. Britain wanted more time to monitor Rauf, but the US was adamant that Rauf should be arrested immediately.

The revelation casts new light on the nature of America's relationship with Britain in the war on terrorism and provides further evidence of its suspicions that Pakistan was not fully committed in the war against al-Qaeda.

It comes as Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, today launches a fierce defence of claims that his country has fuelled Islamic terrorism and attacks Britain for failing to integrate Muslims into its society.

US intelligence has harboured fears for many years that Pakistan's intelligence service, the ISI, has not done enough to combat al-Qaeda and as a result was worried it would allow Rauf to flee. But the British intelligence agencies were concerned that seizing Rauf too soon would compromise further investigations. Although there were allegedly significant amounts of wire-tap evidence, this could not be made use of in a British court, so a decision was taken to continue with Rauf's surveillance.

However, a senior intelligence source has told The Observer that US agents had agreed on a plan to seize Rauf and fly him to an interrogation centre at a secret location if he remained at large.

Immediately following the US's veiled ultimatum that MI6 should 'lift' Rauf, which was communicated to ISI, he was arrested by Pakistani intelligence officials, a move that forced the British police to carry out a series of arrests as they looked to pick up those allegedly linked to him. Rauf's father, Abdel, was arrested in Pakistan. Rauf's brother, Tayib, from Birmingham, was arrested and later released without charge.

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Junior



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Britain has long put American security at risk. By harboring islamic extremists. Osama was a tottenham football fan. A londoner.

After 7/7 they've begun to co-ordinate more closely with the US though.
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
Osama was a tottenham football fan. A londoner.


Tottenham?!? Gees. I've lost all respect for the man. He deserves to die.
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Neil



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Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was Arsenal.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neil wrote:
He was Arsenal.


It appears so...

"ACCORDING TO a new biography of Osama bin Laden, the world's most hated man is an Arsenal fan.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20011119/ai_n14425124
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BB, you are sounding more and more like a Korean with a serious inferiority complex every day. It's always someone else's fault. But since you come from a country that hasn't had its own foreign policy since 1941, maybe that's understandable.

I do have a question though. Are poodles house trained?
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alleged Liquid Bomb Plot Credibility Crumbles
Court clears Rauf of charges as much vaunted transatlantic airliner attack dissipates into another staged terror alert

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, December 13, 2006

The alleged ringleader of a much vaunted plot to blow up multiple transatlantic airliners using liquid explosives has been cleared of "terrorism" charges and of being a member of any terrorist group, rendering August's terror scare another hyped creation of government scare mongering Idea



In every single major terror bust or terror alert we have proven the evidence to be flawed and the charges to be cooked up nonsense aimed at prolonging the illusion that terror cells are lurking around every corner waiting to cause mayhem. The geopolitical agenda of the U.S., Britain and Israel depends on the proliferation of phony terror threats in order to continue the farcical war on terror and take more of our innate freedoms at home to stifle dissent against the plot for worldwide hegemony.

The supposed transatlantic bomb plot has dissipated into another staged terror alert.

The BBC reports,

"A Pakistani judge has ruled there is not enough evidence to try a key suspect in an alleged airline bomb plot on terrorism charges.

He has moved the case of Rashid Rauf, a Briton, from an anti-terrorism court to a regular court, where he faces lesser charges such as forgery."

"The Pakistani authorities described him as a key figure."

"But an anti-terrorism court in Rawalpindi found no evidence that he had been involved in terrorist activities or that he belonged to a terrorist organisation."

CONT'D ...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/131206liquidbomb.htm
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