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[blaseblasphemener]

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=ce40d454-2a08-4857-bae5-9890f13c1feb&k=79273

[endo]

That's a sad story and I feel for the woman in it.

But blaseblasphemener, you're an idiot. Just a grade A dumbass.

What in the hell does your topic title have to do with the story? So Canada as a nation is to to be blamed?

Perhaps you could of talked about some of the problems in Canada's health care system. The last I heard, provinces play a stronger role over the hospitals than the federal government.

Therefore, you should be attacking Alberta.

And if your topic title is a slight to Canada's health care system, perhaps you'd find it ironic that Alberta is the strongest opponent to this idea in the Confederation.

[ChopChaeJoe]

I didn't follow the link. (Why would I want to read some sickening story??)

But i gotta ask, when did anyone ever call Canada a utopia? A decent place, friendly people, all that jazz. but utopia????

[blaseblasphemener]

[Snowmeow]

As the woman in the story said, she was having a miscarriage and she knew there was nothing that the hospital could do about it. She "simply wanted some compassion and privacy during her ordeal."

Well darn, I don't fault the hospital for not having a spare room to put her in, or a spare nurse to console her. That's what friends and family should have been doing.

As for being self-conscious in the eaiting room, usually people in there have problems of their own and may not even be paying attention to her.

[Big_Bird]

[snowy32]

[khyber]

Sounds like a problem fairly specific to THAT particular hospital don't you think?

...and it does seem like the title is a bit melodramatic. I mean, crap like this happens in hospitals ALL over the world...well, not in Korea...but everywhere else.

Pobody's Nerfect.

[endo]

[billybrobby]

I think the OP is making the point that if something like this happens in Korea it's taken to be an indication of a larger societal problems whereas in Canada it's taken to be a singular incident and regrettable abnormality.

Actually, the other posts on this thread made that point better than the OP.

[periwinkle]

Don't they triage? You'd think she'd be put on priority.

Once I went to the ER and they took their own sweet time until I curled up into a fetal position on the floor (kidney stone was blocking my ureter- kidney swelled up to twice its normal size- kidney stone pain is compared to labor pain in its intensity). Doesn't look good to have patients curled up on the floor, so I was seen pretty quickly after that~

[mindmetoo]

Trying to argue medical systems (eg Canada vs the USA) is like the proverbial blind men trying to describe an elephant. It depends on what part you're feeling.

When I was in the USA, I sure did like the private system because I had a gold plated health plan paid in full by my company. If you're a skilled worker in the USA, you sure don't want the Canadian system. If you're working at Home Depot, you'd probably appreciate the Canadian system. Even if you have reasonable primary care coverage, a doctor's $15 copay per visit meant nothing to me but that's 2 hours salary or more for many.

But I'm curious what the OP means by people arguing such and such would never happen in Canada and it's only peculiar to Korea? One should not confuse criticism about the events and society that are around us and materially affect us living in Korea, with some kind of unspoken implication this never goes on back in Canada etc.

[blaseblasphemener]

Can't a guy go for dramatic effect sometimes? Yes, I'm guilty as charged of hyperbole.

Endo, peace back, happy chuseok.

As for Canada, it's a great place, lots to be proud of. Health care is a at times a disaster, and nurses are on the front lines. But, hearing stories like this, are they are more common than we would like to believe, p iss me off. And, it is so easy to slam Koreans for there arse-backwards ways (at times), but we foreigners can tend to have short memories. Also, is it really an Alberta thing? Can Canadians from other provinces speak to the quality of health service in other provinces? I'm curious.

[anae]

I can't speak for all of Canada, but I do live in Calgary. We have a serious shortage of hospital beds and can have severe back ups at emergency rooms. Many people have started taking their emergency room cases to neighbouring small towns where they know things will not be crowded. Labouring women have been sent to hospitals in these same towns as well because labour and delivery is full at all of the major hospitals in the city. My friend who miscarried early did not ever go to the emergency room. After the major tissue passed, she went to her local clinic and they put her in an empty exam room until the miscarriage was complete.

The provincial gov't closed a few hospitals in the 1990s to get a hold of the budget. I don't think people forsaw the tremendous growth that Calgary would experience in the 2000s. There just isn't enough infastructure to go around.

[djsmnc]

That story was so sweet

Canada is cool! I like they way they talk

Hey hoser, whatcha doin' eh?