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From public school to university?
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adventureman



Joined: 18 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: From public school to university? Reply with quote

It seems apparant to me that the natural progression for an EFL teacher these days is childrens hagwon ---> adults hagwon (maybe) ---> university OR children's hagwon ---> public school full stop.

Many public school teachers on here seem content enough their jobs and don't have a strong desire to move into the University system.

Are there any public school teachers out there who have plans to move into the university system and/or obtain an MA in the near future?

With almost three years experince in public school myself I would not see the point in putting out the dosh for an MA if I only wanted to work in a public school.

Also, I don't know how applicable public elementary/middle/high school experience would be when searching for a uni job because many universities ask for a set number of years experience teaching that PARTICULAR age group in their job ads.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I helps, but you don't need an MA for most universities.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that most universities in Seoul want at least an M.A. but if you are willing to work in the boonies sometimes they will take anyone they can get. The only real benefit on a uni unless you are qualified to teach in the actually English department is more vacation. It seems that uni-wons pay 2.0 million a month. If you applied directly to the board of education and were in Korea you are probably looking at 2.4-2.6 million won a month.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Re: From public school to university? Reply with quote

adventureman wrote:
Are there any public school teachers out there who have plans to move into the university system and/or obtain an MA in the near future?


me and my boyfriend.

edit: both move into the uni system and obtain MAs
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's going to get more and more difficult to move into decent university jobs without the MA. As someone posted, the jobs at the universities in the boonies will probably have to continue recruiting those with only their BAs. With these new three year term limits being imposed at many of the universities in the cities, though, I can see qualified and experienced MAs jumping from one school to the next, leaving little or no room for BAs to get their foot in the door.

Who knows, though. The pay and conditions at all but a few of the universities have diminished to the point that many are looking to move out of Korea; either that or just coast the best they can until a fat early retirement at 45.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think it's going to get more and more difficult to move into decent university jobs without the MA.


PRagic, what is the point? One would have a hard time finding a decent job even with an M.A. or PHD.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do unis recruit, anyway? the rural ones don't seem to have websites in english... at least the ones i've been looking at.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word of mouth.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are better Uni jobs outside of Korea. This country generally provides relatively low conditions for highly qualified teachers.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My uni's starting pay is pretty low, but the perks (such as 14 weeks paid vacation!) make it worth it...even though it IS in the boonies!
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to address some recent points:

1) ALL UNIVERSITIES HERE SHOULD BE GIVING AT LEAST 16 WEEKS OF PAID VACATION. THAT IS NOT A PERK!!

2) Most of the universities run their ads for departmental positions off of their home pages, many of which can be viewed in English.

3) I agree. The pay for tenure track positions in Korea is low compared to Singapore, Hong Kong, and Japan. And Korea wants to recruit more and better qualified foreign applicants? Cough..uh, ok...

4) I don't agree that it's hard to find jobs. With the MA (or Ph.D.), you at least have a shot at some of the better jobs with better locations.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: