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My Struggle With Slavery Reparations
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dulouz



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: My Struggle With Slavery Reparations Reply with quote

After review and thoughtful introspection, I've come to the conclusion that adequate slavery reparations are impossible to deliver and will only serve as a multigenerational antagonism. That is all.
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cwemory



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

possibly...but they could be hilarious too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnloMMvC_8k
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After review and thoughtful introspection, I've come to the conclusion that adequate slavery reparations are impossible to deliver and will only serve as a multigenerational antagonism. That is all.


Are you of the same opinion re: holocaust reparations?
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dulouz



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holocaust reparations - too much to think about now. I have to do laundry and shop for exotic plant seeds on eBay. I'll get back to you with "My Struggle With Holocaust Reparations".
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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After review and thoughtful introspection, I've come to the conclusion that adequate slavery reparations are impossible to deliver and will only serve as a multigenerational antagonism. That is all.


Are you of the same opinion re: holocaust reparations?



I did not know there were African Americans who are about 150 years old. Why do I say that? Slavery officially ended in 1865. There are no living victims of slavery.

People bring up the holocaust to compare. The difference is when reparations were being made, holocaust survivors could be seen.
Slavery ended in 1865; the holocaust ended in 1945. The former happened long before the latter hence there are no survivors to compensate.

If you argue for compensation for slavery, Native Americans could sue for trillions for all the real estate lost, the Swedes could demand reparation from the Russians for taking St Petersburg from them etc...
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Yo!Chingo



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
On the other hand wrote:
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After review and thoughtful introspection, I've come to the conclusion that adequate slavery reparations are impossible to deliver and will only serve as a multigenerational antagonism. That is all.


Are you of the same opinion re: holocaust reparations?



I did not know there were African Americans who are about 150 years old. Why do I say that? Slavery officially ended in 1865. There are no living victims of slavery.

People bring up the holocaust to compare. The difference is when reparations were being made, holocaust survivors could be seen.
Slavery ended in 1865; the holocaust ended in 1945. The former happened long before the latter hence there are no survivors to compensate.

If you argue for compensation for slavery, Native Americans could sue for trillions for all the real estate lost, the Swedes could demand reparation from the Russians for taking St Petersburg from them etc...


Hey the Native Americans are suing for $$$ and their land back!
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Germanic ancestors were invaded by the Romans and the Huns. Show me the money!

Ken:>
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i_teach_esl



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's not uncommon that those who are against reparations for the african holocaust decline to comment on reparations for the jewish holocaust. interesting.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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After review and thoughtful introspection, I've come to the conclusion that adequate slavery reparations are impossible to deliver and will only serve as a multigenerational antagonism. That is all.


Are you of the same opinion re: holocaust reparations?


Holocaust reparations (and reparations paid to Japanese who had their property siezed) seem to have been made to the immediate victims or at least their surviving children. I'm not sure how we determine who in the black community gets compensation. Who is black enough? Who isn't black enough? It might prove more divisive.
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riley



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While reperations for slavery may seem like a good idea, but it's easy to bog down in the details. Who pays? Does the government pay, descendents of the slaveowners, or all whites? Who gets the money? How much?
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be very difficult to figure out who to give money. However...

The US could official apologize in all three houses (Senate, congress and White House) as well they should fully fund a huge slavery museum that is currently in the works, as well the school children for all future generations should be forced to watch and read roots as well other African Holocaust documents. That would be a good start rather than trying to dole money out.
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, what would we get in return?
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Beej



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A black Harvard professor once stated that despite the slave trade being obviously despicable, it was great for current blacks in America. The alternative being living in current day Africa.

If reparations are paid, do blacks have to give back the fruits of living in America: houses, cars, jobs etc... And do they have to go back to Africa?
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That assumes that Africa was destined to develop the way that it did. If not for the absolute destruction wrought on Africa by the colonial powers (including but not limited to slavery) its a good assumption that Africa probably would not have ended up the broken continent it is today.
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riley



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I have to say, I almost completely agree with Octavius on this thread, both about how Africa could have turned out and about what the U.S. should do about our slavery history. My only thing is a quibble, forcing students to go to the museum doesn't encourage them.
Definitely, slavery is a black mark on American history in a way similar to the Holocaust in that we can not and should not forget our history, nor cover it up.
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