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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Private Lessons - Legally Reply with quote

How hard is it to find a part time job teaching private lessons? I'm not looking for your moral stance on it, or if you can or can't do it. So please leave all the B.S I've read on other threads about private lessons....its a simple question:

Is it HARD to find part time work to teach private english lessons to koreans??
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put up a sign with a low-ball price. You'll get some takers within a couple of days if you advertise right.
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A sign? lol...where?

I think 40,000won/hour is the going rate is it not?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Private Lessons - Legally Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
How hard is it to find a part time job teaching private lessons? I'm not looking for your moral stance on it, or if you can or can't do it. So please leave all the B.S I've read on other threads about private lessons....its a simple question:

Is it HARD to find part time work to teach private english lessons to koreans??


You can get LEGAL work in another school by having it added to your ARC. This requires permission of your current school, your new contract, an application to immigration and a 60k won fee.

It is EASY to find private lessons. Something like falling off a chair and hitting the floor. This is even more true if you work in a large school or a high rise neighboorhood with lots of kids.

Unless you have an F2/F4 visa doing private lessons is never legal (your title of this post did say, "Re: Private Lessons - Legally".
There is NO way for a person on an E2 to make privates legal.

No moralizing here. Just the facts Jack.
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate the facts, thats all I ask for Wink

If its NEVER legal, wtf am I paying 60k won for? lol. I was told if you pay the fee then it IS legal?

Glad to know there are tons of available to teach part time, the school I am at has already ok'd me working part time.

I'm in a city of 280,000 people, called Gunsan, near Jeonju
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

40,000 an hour? How much english can you learn in an hour? And what good is 40,000 won? Charge by the month. Just pu u a bunch of signs by soju tents, subway entrances, "barbershops," health clubs, anywhere. Get a few clients, then take down the signs before the authorties rush in.
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm talking part time on sats. I have a full time position already, and just looking to make extra cash while I'm in Korea. I was told $40usd/hour is the going rate......
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
I appreciate the facts, thats all I ask for Wink

If its NEVER legal, wtf am I paying 60k won for? lol. I was told if you pay the fee then it IS legal?

Glad to know there are tons of available to teach part time, the school I am at has already ok'd me working part time.

I'm in a city of 280,000 people, called Gunsan, near Jeonju


2 different sets of circumstances.
One is legal part time work in another licenced hakwon - can be legal and
One is private tutoring on your own - illegal.
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh I see!! So if I work in another school part time, that's legal! But if I do it in someones house that's ILLEGAL!!!

Whats a hogwon, hakwon, btw?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
oh I see!! So if I work in another school part time, that's legal! But if I do it in someones house that's ILLEGAL!!!

Whats a hogwon, hakwon, btw?


It is a private language school - where you will start in the ESL industry.

Me thinks you had better read the FAQs:

Getting a Job - Korea Vs Japan, Taiwan and China
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=20658

Getting a Job - Things You Need to Know
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=20656

Getting a Job -Hagwons, Unis, EPIK & Public Schools
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=20655

Visas
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=20648
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
40,000 an hour? How much english can you learn in an hour? And what good is 40,000 won? Charge by the month. Just pu u a bunch of signs by soju tents, subway entrances, "barbershops," health clubs, anywhere. Get a few clients, then take down the signs before the authorties rush in.


it works, i did one week of putting up posters and i had 20 students.

and when they call tell them you are filling up fast Smile, eventhough you have to have your first client Smile
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grainger



Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Wonju, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your school has already ok'd you to work part time see if you can't set up privates through the school. That's what I do. I started teaching two kids that had graduated from the school (we run a kindy) and then added an older brother of another student. I even do my teaching at the school, but the parents pay me directly. Since it's all done with my director's knowledge, at the school, it's just considered another class and it's perfectly legal. Kind of like overtime.
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
I appreciate the facts, thats all I ask for Wink

If its NEVER legal, wtf am I paying 60k won for? lol. I was told if you pay the fee then it IS legal?

Glad to know there are tons of available to teach part time, the school I am at has already ok'd me working part time.

I'm in a city of 280,000 people, called Gunsan, near Jeonju


Privates are 100% of the time, totally illegal for teachers on an E-2 visa. The only foreigners that can legally do privates are those on an F-series visa.

The only legal part-time work a teacher on an E-2 visa can do is teach at another registered place of English education; hagwons, summer/winter English camps, public schools or universities.
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh nice, I can set it up through tht school and do it right there. That's great, that way the school knows, and I can make extra cash. I heard theres quite a bit of money in privates....
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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful what you say to the boss. I asked my boss if I could do private tutoring over the winter vacation through the school and he said yes. Then I found out yes meant he was going to take 50% of my pay from these classes..... Not to mention he started advertising these 'special classes' and it just ended up being like a whole lot of overtime rather than private tutoring.

The following vacation period he decided he was going to make all the teachers do this, but changed it to 'special classes' and only charged each student 60,000 won per student for 15 classes. Didnt even cover my overtime rate. Keeping in mind I still had to split that with the boss as well.... I tell ya every teacher was really pissed off about that.

The winter vacation pay was 20,000 won per hour per student, split with the boss, minimum 3 students per class. Summer vacation was 4000 won per hour per student, split with the boss, no minimum students. Or worse in the korean teachers cases, their classes were only half the cost of mine.
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